Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41242 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 89240 invoked from network); 17 Oct 2008 18:58:54 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Oct 2008 18:58:54 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=sv_forums@fmethod.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=sv_forums@fmethod.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain fmethod.com from 69.16.228.148 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: sv_forums@fmethod.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 69.16.228.148 unknown Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [69.16.228.148] ([69.16.228.148:38569] helo=host.fmethod.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 69/AF-19022-D60E8F84 for ; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 14:58:53 -0400 Received: from [83.228.56.37] (port=3510 helo=pc) by host.fmethod.com with esmtpa (Exim 4.69) (envelope-from ) id 1KquXC-00071I-5D for internals@lists.php.net; Fri, 17 Oct 2008 13:58:50 -0500 Message-ID: <05FD6ACC59464F8799DE54EBBB038B3D@pc> To: "PHP Developers Mailing List" References: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> <48F7D0F6.20707@macvicar.net> Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2008 21:58:43 +0300 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.5512 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.5579 X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - host.fmethod.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.php.net X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - fmethod.com Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] my last attempt at sanity with namespaces From: sv_forums@fmethod.com ("Stan Vassilev | FM") > Regarding internal class resolving, it seems logical but will slow down > resolution within namespaces. But I doubt this is much of an issue as it > doesn't affect those not using namespaces. I don't think that makes sense to say "it doesn't affect people not using namespaces" when talking about namespace design. I believe internal classes should be explicitly disambiguated, even if it looks ugly, so the autoloader can occur at the right place in the chain. Anything else would make namespace+autoload an unusable combination. Greg, good work on the proposals but I think there's some confusion, even among core devs about the nitty gritty details on some of the proposals. I'd be nice if we can add "allowed / proper" and "not allowed / wrong" examples and such to the RFC-s so it's more obvious what impact each proposal has on code. As for ::: vs ::, those are virtually not distinguishable in a lot of code, so if that's to go, pick another syntax. ":>" is fine, "\" is fine, ".." is fine. Regards, Stan Vassilev.