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Subject: Re: my last attempt at sanity with namespaces
From: rpanning@gmail.com (Ryan Panning)

Greg Beaver wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues
> 
> Read it and discuss.  Let's be clear people: the technical problems in
> namespaces are limited and solvable.  The problems in the political
> environment surrounding them may not be.  Wouldn't politics be a
> stupid-ass reason to remove namespaces?
> 
> Greg

Issue A: #2

Issue B: Yes

The reason I like #2 is because it also helps with the autoload 
confusion. It will clearly state that you are either looking for a class 
or namespace file, by looking for the element separator. However, I 
think :> or something other than ::: would be a better separator, for 
better visability. Ex:

Request              Autoload Gets   Type
-----------------------------------------------
A::B:>C              A::B:>C         Class
A::B:>func()         A::B            Namespace
A::B:>C::CONST       A::B:>C         Class
A::B::C:>D::method() A::B::C:>D      Class
A::B::C::D:>CONST    A::B::C::D      Namespace


Question for issue B, will the change only effect class requests? Or 
would it also trigger autoload for function requests (thinking it's a 
namespace request)? I could see that being a problem as 90% of function 
requests are for internal functions and ::func() for everything would be 
a pain.

Similar goes for namespace function/const requests. At this point it 
wouldn't be a big deal but lets say core internal functions are migrated 
to namespaces (ex: Array::map()). Does that trigger autoload before it 
finds the internal Array::map()? I'm thinking that's where option #3 
comes into play, but "using .." every internal class/ns/func would also 
be a pain.

Sorry if this was already answered, I've been trying to keep up. :)