Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41162 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42288 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 18:16:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 18:16:32 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=phpwnd@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=phpwnd@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.198.235 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: phpwnd@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.198.235 rv-out-0506.google.com Received: from [209.85.198.235] ([209.85.198.235:59600] helo=rv-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3E/ED-12818-EF487F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:16:32 -0400 Received: by rv-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id g37so114605rvb.23 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=98x4w9t3TVwnjeIkOJRPJ5QfyPjgd71irrrejZUL+9M=; b=AxsFbQdKz54ppn9v3mqUKM5ao/xM2wItAxuRlJduuXT0/wf4AdDwoJgW29ezpZhmhb p8Gn9D1xZxdM3AL6b2l/23qJFlEkn73qAoNNzEhVxKM+aDySCYw/lSLgybI+r6K/r/3G WBfg1/szO/umZ4ZpXB8Gf8lw4809Z90h3PZVM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=CAXlRtf7g/j88Hwkhx2ulIz5CcFtL3PfRKVngAb7CSNO7GZb6V7OQQgsYpg62h2uR2 iW2Cxp4uXTM+tsRcnvLgAyDeJ35ZYbxpjXkDGGYyDV1LsZ5f1WPDiPyCv87N/Fc+vu1K lTc+mSahLmm6dPZdQLBl5t8q6KDit07NsdNDY= Received: by 10.140.133.9 with SMTP id g9mr1835151rvd.235.1224180987907; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.141.83.21 with HTTP; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:16:27 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <11c607a60810161116v47be903fk595ed1fc76764391@mail.gmail.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 20:16:27 +0200 To: "Steph Fox" Cc: internals@lists.php.net In-Reply-To: <00c401c92f99$84826690$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <00c401c92f99$84826690$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 'Sanity' tally to date From: phpwnd@gmail.com ("Josh Davis") 2008/10/16 Steph Fox : > Please can those people who didn't already express a clear and relevant > opinion, express it now? We don't have long to play with this if there's to > be namespace support in 5.3. Hi, As far as I'm concerned, my preference goes to: 2. use a different separator between namespace name and element [with a plea for not using :::] Yes, please change the resolution order to 1. if blah::Exception exists, use it 2. try to autoload blah::Exception 3. if internal class Exception exists, use it With that said, while I truly appreciate my opinion being taken under consideration, I also hope that decisions won't be made or pushed based on poll numbers alone (even though I don't remember any such occurence in the list's past) and that greater weight will be given to those who are already using namespaces in big, open, projects, such as the Typo3 guys. It would be bad if an anonymous crowd speculating on issues they have yet to encounter could overweight the bunch of guys who have actually been using namespaces for month. I mean, if an anonymous crowd can get a MTV award to Rick Astley, they can get anything voted as namespace operator! :) Anyway, thanks for the tally, it gives a better overview of people's opinions. JD