Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41141 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94946 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 16:52:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 16:52:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:55942] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F5/73-12818-83177F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 12:52:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id A3245414400F; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 16:53:41 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id q1PT4BGrXONG; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-144-136.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.144.136]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id CC0C54144009; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:53:40 +0200 (CEST) To: Steph Fox In-Reply-To: <00c401c92f99$84826690$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> X-Priority: 3 References: <00c401c92f99$84826690$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Message-ID: <289E9A57-3FAF-473F-BCD3-91687187309B@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 18:51:29 +0200 Cc: X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] 'Sanity' tally to date From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 16.10.2008, at 16:14, Steph Fox wrote: > Please can those people who didn't already express a clear and > relevant > opinion, express it now? We don't have long to play with this if > there's to > be namespace support in 5.3. > > At present it looks like a two-horse race between #1 full > disambiguation > (:::) and #3 explicit disambiguation ('use namespace'). > > Method of tally: anything that would be acceptable to the voter gets a > point. (A weighted version is also offered here.) > > D/S means 'with different separator'. i guess i should note that Steph's tally only includes votes on Greg's proposal. Stas proposal is obviously also still up for vote. In that sense "doesnt work" is maybe a bit too harshly said in the appendix of Greg's proposal, though it does obviously point out an issue. Overall no proposal comes without some caveat (or this all would be easy). regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org