Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41131 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 64231 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 15:20:33 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 15:20:33 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:64859] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id AE/E2-49179-0CB57F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:20:33 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 16 Oct 2008 17:20:52 +0200 Received: from [192.168.27.10] ([192.168.27.10]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:20:03 -0700 Message-ID: <48F75BA3.30603@zend.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:20:03 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lester Caine CC: PHP internals References: <48F6B3C5.9030102@chiaraquartet.net> <7f3ed2c30810152312h5391b25dke2695362c8d28d3b@mail.gmail.com> <48F6E50E.4010107@lsces.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <48F6E50E.4010107@lsces.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 16 Oct 2008 15:20:03.0785 (UTC) FILETIME=[A9DD9B90:01C92FA2] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces sanity: addition to RFC explaining why Stas's proposal doesn't work From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > The problem with that statement is that if it is used to ignore the > other problems, then at some point it may be necessary to re-write all > the new namespace code simply to allow additional features to be added! So? We rewrote pretty much every other part of PHP - engine, object model, filesystem, etc. - and nobody died. Suddently with this particular feature there's tremendous fear of commitment. But we aren't going anywhere by sitting and talking about "what if". We get anywhere only by releasing features and seeing what they do. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com