Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41130 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62997 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 15:18:39 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 15:18:39 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=benramsey@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=benramsey@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 64.233.182.184 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: benramsey@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.233.182.184 nf-out-0910.google.com Received: from [64.233.182.184] ([64.233.182.184:62341] helo=nf-out-0910.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 97/A2-49179-D4B57F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:18:37 -0400 Received: by nf-out-0910.google.com with SMTP id b11so23894nfh.13 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from :user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references:in-reply-to :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; bh=FJDEAUqNdj2OE/ZwqiqiGPxaOJwqB7D3WsOGPm2CU44=; b=I69ol8GgmEd+6OImWuy0+nKNNRydbSaFeXYXnPcceX9RXXG4yGdkMS3xvbsErGeStB UHQB3WLjmGpOSdroXzMHZN2KXR474NbpPXRmbRmKQvOJViy2Udx9CKkfYAR5ghwFpk1P X5FF1q6lzN8b16i26LxFG9iAYnyvTl6yx9sBM= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:user-agent:mime-version:to:subject:references :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:sender; b=CRW77DPtm5O+g1C042G4RcDWYcHeQJd5sTVFs8Vbig9AKwDCXRF4guwG7iQiIuEufe VUOTldH6YyNdCIYKEkW2oWL0kXkrlh75abX3ngYVPFEHEAVPY+ptWgSlCm0qmsii/qog UOJqcEhguGQfpLByRw7fXl3lHI03ESS8BBtUo= Received: by 10.210.113.16 with SMTP id l16mr213242ebc.17.1224170314482; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:34 -0700 (PDT) Received: from bramsey-mb.local (office.atl.schematic.com [209.155.232.242]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id b30sm1655643ika.9.2008.10.16.08.18.32 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Thu, 16 Oct 2008 08:18:32 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <48F75B27.2040008@php.net> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:17:59 -0400 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; U; Intel Mac OS X; en-US; rv:1.8.1.14) Gecko/20080421 Thunderbird/2.0.0.14 Mnenhy/0.7.5.0 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> In-Reply-To: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Sender: Ben Ramsey Subject: Re: my last attempt at sanity with namespaces From: ramsey@php.net (Ben Ramsey) On 10/15/08 4:35 PM, Greg Beaver wrote: > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues > > Read it and discuss. Let's be clear people: the technical problems in > namespaces are limited and solvable. The problems in the political > environment surrounding them may not be. Wouldn't politics be a > stupid-ass reason to remove namespaces? +1 for #3 -- Ben Ramsey http://benramsey.com/