Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41125 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 54003 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 14:42:47 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 14:42:47 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.142 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.142 smtprelay-virgin0142.hostedemail.com Received: from [64.99.136.142] ([64.99.136.142:40517] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E3/F0-49179-6E257F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 10:42:46 -0400 Received: from smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtpgrave08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 48D4C1049D7A for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:17:50 +0000 (UTC) Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay05.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id D79DA2280782 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:12:49 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,cb4c002a03b86952,691ff1dea13fdf9b,steph@php.net,internals@lists.php.net,RULES_HIT:152:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:945:946:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1542:1587:1593:1594:1676:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:1801:2073:2075:2078:2379:2393:2559:2562:2734:3353:3636:3740:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3874:3876:3877:4605:5007:6114:6261:7653:7809:7875:9121,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-63.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.63]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf11.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 14:12:49 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <00c401c92f99$84826690$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> To: Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 15:14:34 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="UTF-8"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: 'Sanity' tally to date From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") Please can those people who didn't already express a clear and relevant opinion, express it now? We don't have long to play with this if there's to be namespace support in 5.3. At present it looks like a two-horse race between #1 full disambiguation (:::) and #3 explicit disambiguation ('use namespace'). Method of tally: anything that would be acceptable to the voter gets a point. (A weighted version is also offered here.) D/S means 'with different separator'. Name Issue A Issue B ====================================================== Greg #2 (alt #3, #1) Yes Guilherme #3 Yes Kalle #4 Yes Tony Bibbs #3 Yes Jaroslav Hanslik #1 (alt #3) Yes Nathan Rixham #4 (D/S) N/A Liz #1 or #3 Yes Andrei - 'agreed with Gregs approach' N/A Janusz Lewandowski #4 Yes Steph #3 (alt #2) Abstained Josh Davies - '#1 and #2 are functionally the same' N/A Hannes - put in a plea for classes only in 5.3 N/A Lester - WROTE SOMETHING LOUD N/A Alexey #3 Yes Marc Boeren #1 (D/S) N/A Derick #1 No Vesselin Kenashkov #3 Yes Lars #3 (alt #2) N/A Karsten Damberkalns #1 (alt #3) Yes Jochem Maas #2 (alt #3, #1) Yes Richard Quadling #1 (alt #2) No Issue A: #1 - 8 (1 with different separator) #2 - 5 #3 - 11 #4 - 3 (1 with different separator) Issue A weighted (first choice gets 2 points, rest 1): #1 - 12 + 2 = 14 #2 - 4 + 3 = 7 #3 - 12 + 5 = 17 #4 - 6 + 0 = 6 Issue B: Yes - 11 No - 2 (see Richard's rationale tho') Abs - 1 N/A - 7