Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41119 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11255 invoked from network); 16 Oct 2008 09:52:50 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Oct 2008 09:52:50 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jochem@iamjochem.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jochem@iamjochem.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain iamjochem.com from 194.109.193.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jochem@iamjochem.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.121 mx1.moulin.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [194.109.193.121] ([194.109.193.121:45018] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 42/94-20632-1FE07F84 for ; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 05:52:49 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 96BD6287A43; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:52:46 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.moulin.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 64e1y-HuXfO7; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.1.59] (bspr.xs4all.nl [194.109.161.228]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8C8D92878AF; Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:52:42 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48F70EEA.90706@iamjochem.com> Date: Thu, 16 Oct 2008 11:52:42 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Macintosh/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Beaver CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> In-Reply-To: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] my last attempt at sanity with namespaces From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) Greg Beaver schreef: > Hi, > > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues > > Read it and discuss. Let's be clear people: the technical problems in > namespaces are limited and solvable. The problems in the political > environment surrounding them may not be. Wouldn't politics be a > stupid-ass reason to remove namespaces? well quite (although removal seems to me better than releasing without tackling the technical issues [those you documented in your latest RFC] ... but that's just me). so far as my +1 - I give my vote to Greg's preferred solution(s) (Greg get to vote with a +2 :-) ... I don't say this lightly, I've been convinced on-list and off- by detailed arguments and stacks of example code that Greg really has thought this through more than anyone else and what he offers is better than anything anybody else has brought to the table (regarding the issues highlighted in his last RFC) rgds, Jochem > > Greg >