Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41097 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83318 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2008 21:47:01 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Oct 2008 21:47:01 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tony@tonybibbs.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tony@tonybibbs.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain tonybibbs.com from 209.191.119.130 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tony@tonybibbs.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.191.119.130 web703.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: from [209.191.119.130] ([209.191.119.130:32977] helo=web703.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 78/41-10880-3D466F84 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 17:47:01 -0400 Received: (qmail 53138 invoked by uid 60001); 15 Oct 2008 21:46:56 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: 1z5BkZoVM1kDkO3Cm9FBeWaM3DTlKh3IjXK.TRmPTjarHz0L1jE8LBYXvQqcMeG6XpgEN0LXMhZRE5.DkaDRpu537Hy2pZn7EFk_lE4Xj3oTqmx6bJ9ueXf5yI3hxzyJQutRMwALi0EJY6zS69kc7oh8mGrb2Oz5_USBztFSxNocdA-- Received: from [66.43.220.221] by web703.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:46:56 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 14:46:56 -0700 (PDT) To: Greg Beaver , PHP Developers Mailing List MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <818725.44945.qm@web703.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] my last attempt at sanity with namespaces From: tony@tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) "Conflict Between Namespaced Functions and static class methods" I think #3 ("use namespace" or "use class") makes the most sense. I assume if there is a conflict without being explicit it would give an error? I also assume in the even of no conflict you can still just say "use foo" and will assume namespace, right? If so that seems to be very clear. Regarding the potential __autoload performance problem, how big are we talking? "Resolving access to internal classes" I think your suggestion of changing the order around makes perfect sense. All that said, I want to personally thank-you Greg for getting us to focus on the real issues, not the politics around it. --Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Greg Beaver To: PHP Developers Mailing List Sent: Wednesday, October 15, 2008 3:35:11 PM Subject: [PHP-DEV] my last attempt at sanity with namespaces Hi, http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues Read it and discuss. Let's be clear people: the technical problems in namespaces are limited and solvable. The problems in the political environment surrounding them may not be. Wouldn't politics be a stupid-ass reason to remove namespaces? Greg -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php