Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41091 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 68327 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2008 20:55:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Oct 2008 20:55:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=guilhermeblanco@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 74.125.92.27 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.92.27 qw-out-2122.google.com Received: from [74.125.92.27] ([74.125.92.27:28658] helo=qw-out-2122.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FD/C5-39277-BB856F84 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 16:55:23 -0400 Received: by qw-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 8so815288qwh.59 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=IsdXaeuhTlqcjqY9jKScfSuOG00061dQTCwrPLAhS+s=; b=dSBdxTO1N0ckNeGKCbDL+MnCiBHXy/lmibaFqjdx1tzCDifT2EHK7FBXYwggPTiINX 30VY7eoGB6ggJVromSB5C+O8rcBKuM0qob2hByNtcZP12rvxYXWhqBCZukOpDMz7kQqD Gfvq4WTTpRzTzB4/uzXOxyjylzEeQNf/LMF+o= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=co0vFsnsWC34RP94NDvHQ2SQGnQM0XI3qyhb2D54H3SGRdYD1LUHZWDAzErG2LhwxF qeCWWD25DOItGOvahW7QKuJHUsTLqAuQesgXP5ACCr77zYWplg+pQ4qM4T7TVaixKsqf tzZO1O+2ZMKtPetN9lDKi3k6s2jXU7p5bmcck= Received: by 10.214.44.17 with SMTP id r17mr1685967qar.66.1224104123043; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.214.78.6 with HTTP; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 13:55:23 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 18:55:23 -0200 To: "Greg Beaver" Cc: "PHP Developers Mailing List" In-Reply-To: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <48F653FF.5010106@chiaraquartet.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] my last attempt at sanity with namespaces From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("Guilherme Blanco") Hi, I spent almost all day long reading your emails about ns implementation (including one 100+ thread). There are many useless discussions to be honest, some of them almost going to personal side. I think this should be a simple thread of voting, instead of start another flame war here. For those that are considering only karma people, I help Pierre with windows website. Here are my votes: Namespace resolution issue: - explicit disambiguation with "use namespace blah::blah;" or "use class blah::blah;" __autoload calling order change: - I think a lot of people will have to adapt their implementation to not through Exception if class is not found (You can check that many tools do that). This will end up with always falling into your "autoload call escape fix" hint. So, I can live with it without troubles. You have a big one thumb up from me! Regards, On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 6:35 PM, Greg Beaver wrote: > Hi, > > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceissues > > Read it and discuss. Let's be clear people: the technical problems in > namespaces are limited and solvable. The problems in the political > environment surrounding them may not be. Wouldn't politics be a > stupid-ass reason to remove namespaces? > > Greg > > -- > PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List > To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php > > -- Guilherme Blanco - Web Developer CBC - Certified Bindows Consultant Cell Phone: +55 (16) 9166-6902 MSN: guilhermeblanco@hotmail.com URL: http://blog.bisna.com Rio de Janeiro - RJ/Brazil