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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3
From: dnfeitosa@gmail.com ("Diego Feitosa")

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On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 3:49 PM, Guilherme Blanco <guilhermeblanco@gmail.co=
m
> wrote:

> If all issues are evolved to reusing same operator, :: ...
>
> Why is it so complicated to change the separator and get everything
> supported?
> Is that too hard?
>
> +3 for Liz option #3. Long live :::!
>
> []s,
>
> On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ryan Panning <rpanning@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
> > <snip>
> >>
> >> This can be solved in three ways.
> >>
> >> 1. Greg's "leaf" solution
> >>   foo::bar->baz(); - namespace foo::bar, function baz
> >>   foo->bar::baz(); - namespace foo, static method bar::baz
> >>
> >> Personally I don't like this, get confusing even if we pick some weird
> >> operator like :>
> >>
> >> 2. Don't allow functions or constants in namespaces
> >>
> >> Simplest solution but appears to piss off all the people who have neve=
r
> >> actually used the current implementation or hate OO on principle
> >>
> >> 3. Steph's idea - Change the separator (I vote ':::' - easy to do,
> >> similar to what we have already)
> >>        foo:::bar:::baz(); - namespace foo:::bar function baz
> >>        foo:::bar::baz(); - namespace foo, static method bar::baz
> >>
> >
> > Honestly, either the tough choices must be made soon or namespaces has =
to
> be
> > held until 6. IMO
> >
> > From my experience using namespaces #1 AND #2 would make namespaces sol=
id
> > (again IMO). The only thing for #1 is that I wouldn't want to see ->
> reused,
> > as others have mentioned. Maybe :> or something else. Same for #3, ::
> just
> > causes confusion. I don't really care what it's changed to, ::: is fine=
,
> it
> > just cannot be ::
> >
> > Take a look at what autoload gets when an undeclared namespace, class,
> > whatever is called. That will give you the idea on how autoload doesn't
> > really know what is being called. With the change in #3 and addition of
> #1,
> > it would be possible to know what is being called.
> >
> > <rant>
> > Seriously, why is changing :: seem like such a problem?
> >
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> >
>
>
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Or even

use my::cool::namespace#GregsNamespaceElement

I couldn't understand why Greg's proposal wasn't accepted...

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