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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3
From: guilhermeblanco@gmail.com ("Guilherme Blanco")

If all issues are evolved to reusing same operator, :: ...

Why is it so complicated to change the separator and get everything supported?
Is that too hard?

+3 for Liz option #3. Long live :::!

[]s,

On Wed, Oct 15, 2008 at 4:41 PM, Ryan Panning <rpanning@gmail.com> wrote:
> Elizabeth M Smith wrote:
> <snip>
>>
>> This can be solved in three ways.
>>
>> 1. Greg's "leaf" solution
>>   foo::bar->baz(); - namespace foo::bar, function baz
>>   foo->bar::baz(); - namespace foo, static method bar::baz
>>
>> Personally I don't like this, get confusing even if we pick some weird
>> operator like :>
>>
>> 2. Don't allow functions or constants in namespaces
>>
>> Simplest solution but appears to piss off all the people who have never
>> actually used the current implementation or hate OO on principle
>>
>> 3. Steph's idea - Change the separator (I vote ':::' - easy to do,
>> similar to what we have already)
>>        foo:::bar:::baz(); - namespace foo:::bar function baz
>>        foo:::bar::baz(); - namespace foo, static method bar::baz
>>
>
> Honestly, either the tough choices must be made soon or namespaces has to be
> held until 6. IMO
>
> From my experience using namespaces #1 AND #2 would make namespaces solid
> (again IMO). The only thing for #1 is that I wouldn't want to see -> reused,
> as others have mentioned. Maybe :> or something else. Same for #3, :: just
> causes confusion. I don't really care what it's changed to, ::: is fine, it
> just cannot be ::
>
> Take a look at what autoload gets when an undeclared namespace, class,
> whatever is called. That will give you the idea on how autoload doesn't
> really know what is being called. With the change in #3 and addition of #1,
> it would be possible to know what is being called.
>
> <rant>
> Seriously, why is changing :: seem like such a problem?
>
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