Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41051 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 94493 invoked from network); 15 Oct 2008 08:03:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 15 Oct 2008 08:03:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=lester@lsces.co.uk; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=lester@lsces.co.uk; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lsces.co.uk from 213.123.26.182 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: lester@lsces.co.uk X-Host-Fingerprint: 213.123.26.182 c2beaomr04.btconnect.com Received: from [213.123.26.182] ([213.123.26.182:1487] helo=c2beaomr04.btconnect.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 44/D1-19544-1C3A5F84 for ; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 04:03:14 -0400 Received: from [127.0.0.1] (host81-138-11-136.in-addr.btopenworld.com [81.138.11.136]) by c2beaomr04.btconnect.com with ESMTP id AIY32539; Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:03:10 +0100 (BST) Message-ID: <48F5A349.4000909@lsces.co.uk> Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2008 09:01:13 +0100 User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 5.1; en-US; rv:1.8.1.17) Gecko/20080829 SeaMonkey/1.1.12 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: PHP internals References: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Junkmail-Status: score=10/50, host=c2beaomr04.btconnect.com X-Junkmail-SD-Raw: score=unknown, refid=str=0001.0A0B0207.48F5A3BF.0097,ss=1,fgs=0, ip=127.0.0.1, so=2007-10-30 19:00:17, dmn=5.7.1/2008-09-02 X-Junkmail-IWF: false Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine) Derick Rethans wrote: > On Fri, 10 Oct 2008, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > >> At this point I guess we have the choice between: >> >> 1) rip them out >> 2) status quo >> 3) Stas proposal >> 4) Dmitrys proposal >> >> Again I hope that Stas/Dmitry will give us an insight about their proposals, >> though Stas proposal might or might not see any changes. > > Stas wrote up an RFC about the two proposals: > http://wiki.php.net/rfc/namespaceref > > Now I finally figured out what the two things are without having to real > a gazillion pointless posts it makes it easier to formulate my point of > view. From my own point of view - which may well be flawed - I AM still seeing 'namespace' as a stepping stone to better code, but in order to achieve that *I* am thinking that legacy sections get wrapped in a namespace while other sections are developed. To that end, wrapping legacy functions and constant does seem essential SHORT TERM, so not having them would seem to me to make take-up of the concept hamstrung? Am I being totally out of line with that idea? Is there a way to achieve the same result with the current offering? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL ----------------------------- Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/lsces/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk// Firebird - http://www.firebirdsql.org/index.php