Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41037 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 75908 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 21:26:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 21:26:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:50561] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 19/DE-25867-C8E05F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:26:37 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 23:26:56 +0200 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:26:52 -0700 Message-ID: <48F50E9C.3000204@zend.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:26:52 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steph Fox CC: Josh Davis , PHP internals References: <696583.1217.qm@web707.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48F4E520.5050200@lsces.co.uk> <48F4E824.7020104@zend.com> <002901c92e2f$acdac990$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F160.1040407@zend.com> <004d01c92e35$20c9cbd0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F7EE.2030609@zend.com> <007b01c92e37$b2952e90$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4FAF4.50509@zend.com> <00e101c92e3c$d5194b90$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <11c607a60810141401h6d69f5e3r6bd1f25cb07a58bb@mail.gmail.com> <017f01c92e41$9a2b2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <017f01c92e41$9a2b2300$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2008 21:26:52.0922 (UTC) FILETIME=[9381E5A0:01C92E43] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Surely everyone can see the very public ongoing discussions on > internals@ over the course of this and last year? Surely everyone in PHP world reads internals@ and can follow all the twists and turns of all the discussion. You must be kidding. > And of course those same people don't mind a bit if the implementation > has changed 8 times in the last 6 months, because they understand that > they're testing a moving target. No? It wasn't changed in any substantial way even 2 times, let's not exaggerate. And most things under discussion now - except for removing functions which 99% of these people don't need anyway - are very special cases which while exist theoretically are easily avoided in practical code by following code style guidelines, thus ensuring whatever comes out would not have critical influence on the code. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com