Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41032 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 57973 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 21:03:03 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 21:03:03 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.129 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.129 smtprelay-virgin0129.hostedemail.com Received: from [64.99.136.129] ([64.99.136.129:51944] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id B8/BA-25867-60905F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 17:03:03 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 015D81F72675; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:02:59 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,b06c8dbd80242b30,691ff1dea13fdf9b,steph@php.net,stas@zend.com:internals@lists.php.net,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:945:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1537:1567:1587:1593:1594:1711:1714:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2196:2199:2393:2559:2562:2737:2828:2910:3027:3865:3867:3868:3869:3871:3872:3873:3874:3876:3877:4250:5007:6114:6119:6261:7653:7875:9040,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-63.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.63]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf12.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 21:02:58 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <016401c92e40$7b272f40$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> To: "Stanislav Malyshev" Cc: "PHP internals" References: <696583.1217.qm@web707.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <037801c92e27$c913f3a0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4E520.5050200@lsces.co.uk> <48F4E824.7020104@zend.com> <002901c92e2f$acdac990$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F160.1040407@zend.com> <004d01c92e35$20c9cbd0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F7EE.2030609@zend.com> <007b01c92e37$b2952e90$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4FAF4.50509@zend.com> <00e101c92e3c$d5194b90$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F5075C.2050807@zend.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:04:41 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") Stas... > And people believed us and took the risk. Which you just said they wouldn't do. > And now you propose to teach them the lesson that trusting PHP core > developers that they actually deliver is a bad idea. It seems a sounder policy than teaching them they can't trust that what is actually delivered will be robust! - Steph