Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41022 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 33726 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 20:02:11 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 20:02:11 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain bitextender.com from 80.237.132.12 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: david.zuelke@bitextender.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.237.132.12 wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de Received: from [80.237.132.12] ([80.237.132.12:55209] helo=wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 92/F5-25867-0CAF4F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 16:02:10 -0400 Received: from dslb-088-066-178-241.pools.arcor-ip.net ([88.66.178.241] helo=[192.168.0.100]); authenticated by wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM using esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) id 1Kpq5l-0005K3-8Q; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:02:05 +0200 Cc: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "Steph Fox" , "PHP internals" Message-ID: To: "Arvids Godjuks" In-Reply-To: <9b3df6a50810141253r6f8ff4c4vb618e2a2bee6d085@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-5-894187894; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:02:03 +0200 References: <696583.1217.qm@web707.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <037801c92e27$c913f3a0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4E520.5050200@lsces.co.uk> <48F4E824.7020104@zend.com> <002901c92e2f$acdac990$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F160.1040407@zend.com> <9b3df6a50810141253r6f8ff4c4vb618e2a2bee6d085@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;david.zuelke@bitextender.com;1224014529;4ada22f8; Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: david.zuelke@bitextender.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?=) --Apple-Mail-5-894187894 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit I recommend you and your fellow programmers read the discussion again. It's nost just about syntax. On 14.10.2008, at 21:53, Arvids Godjuks wrote: > People, why you just don't change the namespace separator to something > except :: and sole all the problems one and for all? God damn, > use :> if you > need - just push it out working! Most of my fellow programmers are > just sick > with reading internals discussing how to throw a feathure away because > ambitity problem with :: can't be solved totaly. Me too, mostly I > just skip > namespace topics. > > Make a solid decision. Find the guts to change that misserable :: > separator > to something else (:> for example) and be done with it - you are like > children who can't deside whose toy is it with thouse namespaces! > Take a > break for 2-3 days and look back on what you are arguing about - you > made a > problem from nothing! Originaly no one thought about :: can be used > with > namespaces,now you are trying to fix it but you can't.This is a design > issue, you can't solve it without breaking BC and getting everybody > happy. > > By changing separator you will reach all goals at one shot - > functions, > classes, constants will be alowed in namespaces. That is what userland > developers what. 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