Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41019 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 29626 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 19:53:19 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 19:53:19 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=arvids.godjuks@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.92.169 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.92.169 ug-out-1314.google.com Received: from [66.249.92.169] ([66.249.92.169:21781] helo=ug-out-1314.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 94/05-25867-EA8F4F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:53:19 -0400 Received: by ug-out-1314.google.com with SMTP id k3so1042870ugf.37 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:53:12 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=e6rfEZq8W9sGPhsx1SuwPbPodUXV37sOLn2BsYbDVHc=; b=O2IlpA3jX1ljyRJNGwawLInp5Xr8BYIAg/lkXXWMC4HiXzLsIYEE6Jqlh9UxsQoBRe n1TiGZUhDPRbmvMcKM8V7mXkn/TuZpbkELn8t/kJ8KHJSDcvHo/1VJkkowE5Dn9Jeqx3 MDBa8pEPiBw5OlUuysFojRgac005ppiqFDm+k= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=d0BoxUN64DIbItgnEfzdHGbm2uE/6CCeKkTC2xXaExiQcsfJj8G/w6mY6QLlFrrLBF dgimHJpv/VSZlFu/ro7thrGXFjyxCOdRdvse4hft0OVf6ZZQ+W0QTxB9n9tgByGm6IEz p4CSCCnYQ9NP9D0L0F8e3si+JB4Y3GNxiTk8Q= Received: by 10.67.40.6 with SMTP id s6mr4793021ugj.33.1224013991281; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.67.98.20 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 12:53:11 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <9b3df6a50810141253r6f8ff4c4vb618e2a2bee6d085@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 22:53:11 +0300 To: "Stanislav Malyshev" Cc: "Steph Fox" , "PHP internals" In-Reply-To: <48F4F160.1040407@zend.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_13825_7861655.1224013991290" References: <696583.1217.qm@web707.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <037801c92e27$c913f3a0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4E520.5050200@lsces.co.uk> <48F4E824.7020104@zend.com> <002901c92e2f$acdac990$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48F4F160.1040407@zend.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: arvids.godjuks@gmail.com ("Arvids Godjuks") ------=_Part_13825_7861655.1224013991290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline People, why you just don't change the namespace separator to something except :: and sole all the problems one and for all? God damn, use :> if you need - just push it out working! Most of my fellow programmers are just sick with reading internals discussing how to throw a feathure away because ambitity problem with :: can't be solved totaly. Me too, mostly I just skip namespace topics. Make a solid decision. Find the guts to change that misserable :: separator to something else (:> for example) and be done with it - you are like children who can't deside whose toy is it with thouse namespaces! Take a break for 2-3 days and look back on what you are arguing about - you made a problem from nothing! Originaly no one thought about :: can be used with namespaces,now you are trying to fix it but you can't.This is a design issue, you can't solve it without breaking BC and getting everybody happy. By changing separator you will reach all goals at one shot - functions, classes, constants will be alowed in namespaces. That is what userland developers what. Give that to them! ------=_Part_13825_7861655.1224013991290--