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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3
From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox")

Hi,

> Nobody talks about "without testing", we are in alpha. But I'm talking 
> about working on it, not pushing it under the carpet and hoping it somehow 
> gets better there. I am working on it, so do other people, but chanting 
> "let's remove it" is not working. If anything is "negative", this is.

We are in alpha indeed, and still looking at proposals, and still without 
consensus. The last thing I'd want is to see namespace support pushed under 
the carpet, but I'd rather see it at this stage of development as part of 
the PHP 6 development cycle (as originally planned) than in the 5.3 
development cycle (where it probably doesn't belong anyway). It's become 
clear that there can't simply be a 'class-only' version in 5.3 without 
planning for potential extension of that in 6.0, and in fact that's the 
sticking point. We're trying to second-guess forward compatibility for 
something that doesn't yet exist in its final form. To me at least, that 
means namespace support is starting to look less and less feasible for 5.3 
unless we can agree to never extend namespace support beyond classes. Which 
we don't.

- Steph