Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:41004 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 95781 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 18:05:36 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 18:05:36 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:49859] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 3A/8D-25867-E6FD4F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:05:35 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 20:05:54 +0200 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:05:50 -0700 Message-ID: <48F4DF7E.1070202@zend.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 11:05:50 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steph Fox CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <652122.8719.qm@web708.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> <48F4D832.7010708@zend.com> <033701c92e24$d9ca3d60$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <033701c92e24$d9ca3d60$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 14 Oct 2008 18:05:50.0951 (UTC) FILETIME=[7E032F70:01C92E27] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > This is very negative, Stas. "Everybody wants it so let's push it out > without testing". Do you really want a repeat of 5.0? Nobody talks about "without testing", we are in alpha. But I'm talking about working on it, not pushing it under the carpet and hoping it somehow gets better there. I am working on it, so do other people, but chanting "let's remove it" is not working. If anything is "negative", this is. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com