Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40994 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 80572 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 13:43:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 13:43:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mikko.koppanen@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mikko.koppanen@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 72.14.220.158 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mikko.koppanen@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.14.220.158 fg-out-1718.google.com Received: from [72.14.220.158] ([72.14.220.158:45101] helo=fg-out-1718.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E1/33-25867-7E1A4F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:43:04 -0400 Received: by fg-out-1718.google.com with SMTP id 16so2003326fgg.23 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:sender :to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references :x-google-sender-auth; bh=acOwxJWDV0ZUiJSasuc/KobNOr1L41dgadgkmV8uav0=; b=JCLu5EXIfMD8OLAjyqdBuTw9vs5UxFi8gnyYlvTlroViOjE6Ad0NFDc5nlMgDRDwLO OH8+5yRrDhqTLSKQTWiY7WMX7eSq62FT9Tc3TOoe0+K1oRzFMfhbNDrdwhbvJ/4hviMd Fp28wlwr/9qvIsLz2z1IuCdzoivNkL7O2Morw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:sender:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references:x-google-sender-auth; b=xbptfkcGQ+XjmxJRhS5Oc8rKlyuG0uq7nSsJP/DWXEmR3aU8J1kzCLSGUKyi8UZxtd 6hzhW9ZxbIULeoV5wMcLf+CHzwWvt4/Y1ZHsIYdS8Xr4prxaVMZFGhIChmiZWZqucloE 0wGLWAr9vfjUXg9/nTNE7hhEZgZujnmJDwvOQ= Received: by 10.181.57.11 with SMTP id j11mr5810985bkk.28.1223991780849; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:43:00 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.180.212.16 with HTTP; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 06:42:54 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <8cf711460810140642w4268c7e3yde5628b67a85d74b@mail.gmail.com> Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 14:42:54 +0100 Sender: mikko.koppanen@gmail.com To: "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?=" Cc: "Steph Fox" , technique@dev-solutions.fr, "James Dempster" , "PHP Development" In-Reply-To: <7D21AE34-88EE-4430-A36B-5E50B3E0E1C8@bitextender.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline References: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> <2CA7AC96-AD48-4F5D-B945-2D961B4AB57C@googlemail.com> <462e563f0810140112x3babae20t647a10322e76df8e@mail.gmail.com> <1223973712.7708.10.camel@stephane-dell> <014401c92df5$e70d8470$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <7D21AE34-88EE-4430-A36B-5E50B3E0E1C8@bitextender.com> X-Google-Sender-Auth: 1748f2670963c652 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: mkoppanen@php.net ("Mikko Koppanen") On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 2:27 PM, David Z=FClke wrote: > Am 14.10.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Steph Fox: > >>>> > On 10 Oct 2008, at 06:03, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >>>> > >>>> > 1) rip them out >>>> > >>>> > I'm +1 on this. We simply don't have consensus, and I don't see anyw= ay >>>> > > we >>>> > can have consensus by the time 5.3 has to be frozen. Once namespaces= > >>>> > are in, >>>> > we're gonna have to stick with whatever we choose, unless we totally= > >>>> > break >>>> > BC. >>>> >>>> I'd agree with this, leave something with such a big impact to version >>>> 6. At >>>> least it gives time to get it right. >>> >> I'm +1 on ripping out and leaving til 6.0. > > +1 from me, too. Getting it right takes time. If that means 6.0, fine. +1 for removal. --=20 Mikko Koppanen