Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40991 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 76332 invoked from network); 14 Oct 2008 13:27:55 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 14 Oct 2008 13:27:55 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=david.zuelke@bitextender.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain bitextender.com from 80.237.132.12 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: david.zuelke@bitextender.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 80.237.132.12 wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de Received: from [80.237.132.12] ([80.237.132.12:37765] helo=wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id DF/32-25867-B5E94F84 for ; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 09:27:55 -0400 Received: from munich.bitxtender.net ([85.183.90.3] helo=[10.224.254.2]); authenticated by wp005.webpack.hosteurope.de running ExIM using esmtpsa (TLSv1:RC4-SHA:128) id 1KpjwF-0004Vb-SM; Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:27:52 +0200 Cc: , "James Dempster" , "PHP Development" Message-ID: <7D21AE34-88EE-4430-A36B-5E50B3E0E1C8@bitextender.com> To: Steph Fox In-Reply-To: <014401c92df5$e70d8470$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary=Apple-Mail-3-870535378; micalg=sha1; protocol="application/pkcs7-signature" Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) X-Priority: 3 Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 15:27:50 +0200 References: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> <2CA7AC96-AD48-4F5D-B945-2D961B4AB57C@googlemail.com> <462e563f0810140112x3babae20t647a10322e76df8e@mail.gmail.com> <1223973712.7708.10.camel@stephane-dell> <014401c92df5$e70d8470$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) X-bounce-key: webpack.hosteurope.de;david.zuelke@bitextender.com;1223990875;9e11f9bc; Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: david.zuelke@bitextender.com (=?ISO-8859-1?Q?David_Z=FClke?=) --Apple-Mail-3-870535378 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 14.10.2008 um 14:10 schrieb Steph Fox: >>> > On 10 Oct 2008, at 06:03, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: >>> > >>> > 1) rip them out >>> > >>> > I'm +1 on this. We simply don't have consensus, and I don't see >>> anyway > we >>> > can have consensus by the time 5.3 has to be frozen. Once >>> namespaces > are in, >>> > we're gonna have to stick with whatever we choose, unless we >>> totally > break >>> > BC. >>> >>> I'd agree with this, leave something with such a big impact to >>> version 6. At >>> least it gives time to get it right. >> > I'm +1 on ripping out and leaving til 6.0. +1 from me, too. Getting it right takes time. 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