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Date: Tue, 14 Oct 2008 01:13:46 +0200
To: "Jochem Maas" <jochem@iamjochem.com>
Cc: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" <mls@pooteeweet.org>, 
	"Lester Caine" <lester@lsces.co.uk>, internals@lists.php.net
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php_firebird
From: pierre.php@gmail.com ("Pierre Joye")

Hi

On Tue, Oct 14, 2008 at 12:52 AM, Jochem Maas <jochem@iamjochem.com> wrote:
> Lukas Kahwe Smith schreef:
>>
>> On 07.10.2008, at 20:18, Lester Caine wrote:
>>
>>> What is the correct procedure to create a new driver, or rather clone
>>> the existing php_interbase so that we can build a proper Firebird
>>> version that actually uses the fbclient.dll rather than sharing the
>>> now incompatible GDS32.DLL client. Some people are starting to use
>>> Interbase in parallel with Firebird, but the driver can only access
>>> one client :(
>
> not that I give a **** about the windows interbase/firebird extension .. but ..

When will you (all) understand that it is not only a windows problem?
The fact that windows is likely to do not have it in 5.3 is only a
side effect of the lack of developers around this extension (zero
developer). And seriously, comments like that do not have their place
in this list. I could say the same about firebird and simply keep away
from the windows releases and let the firebird users deal with that.

> I do use firebird and all this talk of dropping firebird support is kind of scary
> (well really scary actually) ... I am able to configure php with '--with-interbase'
> in 5.3alpha2 so I guess I don't need to worry.

We are not talking about abandon it but moving out of core. Please
note that it will not happen tomorrow (5.3). But if nothing changes, I
do not see how this extension could remain in core without
maintainers, but that's not something I can decide on my own or for
5.3 :)

I find amazing that so many users are scary about loosing firebird in
core (they can always install it via pecl then) but I do not see too
much love around it (unit tests, bugs reports, patches, attempt to
contact the firebird developers, etc.).


> effectively the extension for firebird already exists ... it just maps to the interbase
> function, if the fbird_*() aliases were removed and renamed copies the ibase_*()
> extensions functions created that then were built against the firebird client iso
> the interbase client you'd pretty much be there. technically the [firebird] extension
> would be new but is that really a deal breaker given that the complete API (fbird_*())
> already exists?

I do not understand this paragraph.

> PS - I've been trying to follow these firebird shannanigans but it's all been
> a little too UPPER CASE for me to grok. :-/

Agreed :)

Cheers,
--
Pierre

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