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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php_firebird
From: lester@lsces.co.uk (Lester Caine)

Pierre Joye wrote:
> hi Lester,
> 
> On Mon, Oct 13, 2008 at 9:06 AM, Lester Caine <lester@lsces.co.uk> wrote:
> 
> I'm not sure what else we can say but you should really read your mail
> archives and the discussions we had 6 months ago about what we need to
> get firebird support back in 5.3.0 windows binaries.
WHAT IS STILL OUTSTANDING? We tested 5.2.x, identified the problems and WHEN I 
windows build of 5.2.7RC appears we can test that! I'm not seeing anything 
outstanding on the bug list for WINDOWS.
For people running Interbase AND Firebird we need to identify the different 
clients but that is basically just a single line change in the code, so 
perhaps we should be adding a switch for that rather than talking about a 
separate port, however some people seem to want both running at the same time 
which causes a problem with just having one driver?

> PHP 5.3.0 builds (releases or snapshots) have no firebird since day
> #1, I wonder what you have tested.
PHP5_3_080615
This has a php_interbase build that is working fine. The only problems I have 
with this copy of 5.3.0 is all the NONE database error messages that it's 
throwing in my various projects. But UNTIL there is agreement on what is going 
to be the final version of 5.3.0 there is little point trying to fix them !!!

>> FIREBIRD has pulled somewhat further ahead and needs it's own build for
>> that, but there has still been no response on how we can achieve that!
> 
> That's what we asked to have. We do not not use firebird, we have no
> clue about the versions to use, the configuration or anything else. We
> do not have the time and the resources to figure it out either and
> that's why we asked you (as you Lester and the other person having
> volunteered to provide the info) to provide these info.
The LAST request was that we simply tested things on windows - compiling 
builds was not a problem? This we have been doing but since *WE* can't build 
compatible windows binaries, we are reliant on the snapshot builds - which are 
currently not happening for windows?
We never got an answer as to what was wrong with php_interbase i.e. what needs 
doing to it to cater for the rewrite required for PHP5.3?

> Instead of talking about forks and pointing the stinky fingers to
> internals (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/firebird-php/message/2561),
> you may finally do some your home work.
THAT problem relates to LINUX - but *I* have not been able to find it. MY 64 
bit Linux systems are fine!!! So until someone can identify a faulty setup we 
are a little stuffed :(

And KILLING php_interbase is not a solution to anything. If you do not want us 
to use PHP then fine. I'm sure we can all scrap several years of work and 
switch to something else. But we don't actually have a problem - we just never 
advance beyond 5.2.x. And forcing weeks of unproductive activity trying to 
create a PDO driver that does EVERYTHING that php_interbase CURRENTLY provides 
is not a practical option either. We have already established that ADOdb 
running in PDO mode is slower than the equivalent native drivers, so its 
simply not a practical way forward.

I suppose the other option is to simply clone php_interbase outside the PHP 
project and do our own builds? But support for windows will not happen that way :(

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Lester Caine - G8HFL
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