Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40934 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 11119 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2008 21:23:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 2008 21:23:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=tony@tonybibbs.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=tony@tonybibbs.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain tonybibbs.com from 209.191.119.129 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: tony@tonybibbs.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.191.119.129 web702.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com Received: from [209.191.119.129] ([209.191.119.129:34328] helo=web702.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/A2-38373-5B7CFE84 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:23:03 -0400 Received: (qmail 36626 invoked by uid 60001); 10 Oct 2008 21:22:59 -0000 X-YMail-OSG: VDCfkxwVM1kLJSRVBWQAkKWXHreSkHkLUk1NuVDn9KugJQRHrWnabhJm6RZFYWNRhfJGDgKCf2Q5KeddzOJe_IjSPzc6dMfrh07zKsoyDlwwgF8GifiGpqoT8eYFfAox1_I.3FL3HaNq4UWjA3yVlaaF Received: from [216.51.246.190] by web702.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com via HTTP; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:22:59 PDT X-Mailer: YahooMailRC/1096.28 YahooMailWebService/0.7.218.2 Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 14:22:59 -0700 (PDT) To: internals@lists.php.net MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Message-ID: <427895.35307.qm@web702.biz.mail.mud.yahoo.com> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: tony@tonybibbs.com (Tony Bibbs) I'm against ditching it. This on-again-off-again affair with namespaces really should be put to bed as I believe many in the community are really looking forward to them. If it is taken out of 5.3 this same line of logic will be used on all subsequent versions. I don't question it is a hard decision to make but waiting doesn't make it easier. Now that said, I'd be all for holding off if consensus is more time = better ideas but from my lurking on the subject it seems this horse has been beating....badly. --Tony ----- Original Message ---- From: Geoffrey Sneddon To: Lukas Kahwe Smith Cc: PHP Development Sent: Friday, October 10, 2008 11:56:11 AM Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 On 10 Oct 2008, at 06:03, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > 1) rip them out I'm +1 on this. We simply don't have consensus, and I don't see anyway we can have consensus by the time 5.3 has to be frozen. Once namespaces are in, we're gonna have to stick with whatever we choose, unless we totally break BC. -- Geoffrey Sneddon -- PHP Internals - PHP Runtime Development Mailing List To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php