Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40928 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 53363 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2008 16:56:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 2008 16:56:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=foolistbar@googlemail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=foolistbar@googlemail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain googlemail.com designates 74.125.78.25 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: foolistbar@googlemail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 74.125.78.25 ey-out-2122.google.com Received: from [74.125.78.25] ([74.125.78.25:60874] helo=ey-out-2122.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id CA/47-38373-3398FE84 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 12:56:20 -0400 Received: by ey-out-2122.google.com with SMTP id 5so232292eyj.59 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:cc:message-id:from:to :in-reply-to:content-type:content-transfer-encoding:mime-version :subject:date:references:x-mailer; bh=XlU7fHzKHc8OdfQKR0xlM5ncjE0LJquD98K7ZdDTCHM=; b=BRczLnStR7QQmyAL8BxECbkKUl/uiTxMvjRR/CtEnmxeG91aJMMZidYDK7sC43Xrnf 33+5vV6knHzN4XRtXZ2g2bFjywh4h2YdTGXB0wVyGg9m2mh59Ug3Km+3nlkhwOC6kuvt jx6jBAUZsRx8bRdqSBhFJJUKtjRdqZt7nCTuw= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=googlemail.com; s=gamma; h=cc:message-id:from:to:in-reply-to:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:subject:date:references :x-mailer; b=lTDQoBCwIJkcS6zhuPCsscYeTx8pT9y7qMTcDooX4FvSWSY9HxpKF+pX4uIaqgpLlU YvMn06rXPUOGKMzrRvBHap8t/aTwKFshQY/3trge4lQLI8RjExYWbmu8JlyV2eHmBi/j XUrI8nyguAQgDI4j8LQNB5khQH6OZLwK8piks= Received: by 10.210.123.2 with SMTP id v2mr526805ebc.0.1223657777082; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:56:17 -0700 (PDT) Received: from ?192.168.0.116? (host81-156-236-33.range81-156.btcentralplus.com [81.156.236.33]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id z40sm1908403ikz.7.2008.10.10.09.56.13 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=RC4-MD5); Fri, 10 Oct 2008 09:56:15 -0700 (PDT) Cc: PHP Development Message-ID: <2CA7AC96-AD48-4F5D-B945-2D961B4AB57C@googlemail.com> To: Lukas Kahwe Smith In-Reply-To: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 17:56:11 +0100 References: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] namespaces and alpha3 From: foolistbar@googlemail.com (Geoffrey Sneddon) On 10 Oct 2008, at 06:03, Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > 1) rip them out I'm +1 on this. We simply don't have consensus, and I don't see anyway we can have consensus by the time 5.3 has to be frozen. Once namespaces are in, we're gonna have to stick with whatever we choose, unless we totally break BC. -- Geoffrey Sneddon