Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40906 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 8484 invoked from network); 10 Oct 2008 05:04:09 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 10 Oct 2008 05:04:09 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:55788] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/E2-48736-842EEE84 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 01:04:08 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2EC54414405A for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 05:05:08 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id qm6C4IzwmioO for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:05:07 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-58-144-136.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.58.144.136]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E18B34144059 for ; Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:05:03 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <3CF765DF-27AF-44FD-9ECF-BEBFC8A0AFCA@pooteeweet.org> To: PHP Development Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 10 Oct 2008 07:03:19 +0200 X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: namespaces and alpha3 From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) Hi All, There was an offline exchange, which generated a lot of good ideas, but that failed to find agreement for one final proposal among the participants. I had hoped that the results would have been mailed to this list yesterday. Since I am going on yet another frisbee trip in about an hour, I am putting on the thumb screws with this post. Stas might update his proposal and Dmitry has a proposal that makes some more modifications to be able to handle functions/constants in namespaces without ambiguities. I will leave it to them to send their proposals to the list. At this point I guess we have the choice between: 1) rip them out 2) status quo 3) Stas proposal 4) Dmitrys proposal Again I hope that Stas/Dmitry will give us an insight about their proposals, though Stas proposal might or might not see any changes. In my dream world you all would come to an agreement, finish up the patches by Monday so that we could release alpha3 next Thursday. Since that is not going to happen we will see alpha3 on the 21st I guess. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org