Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40850 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 93080 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2008 14:26:24 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 3 Oct 2008 14:26:24 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=brianlmoon@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=brianlmoon@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 72.5.90.27 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: brianlmoon@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 72.5.90.27 smtp.dealnews.com Linux 2.5 (sometimes 2.4) (4) Received: from [72.5.90.27] ([72.5.90.27:42072] helo=smtp.dealnews.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id BF/86-48736-E8B26E84 for ; Fri, 03 Oct 2008 10:26:23 -0400 Received: (qmail 27256 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2008 14:26:20 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO mail.dealnews.com) (10.1.10.7) by -H with ESMTPS (DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA encrypted); 3 Oct 2008 14:26:20 -0000 Received: (qmail 18956 invoked from network); 3 Oct 2008 14:26:19 -0000 Received: from h105.248.18.98.static.ip.windstream.net (HELO 100.100.1.10.in-addr.arpa) (brianm@98.18.248.105) by -H with ESMTPA; 3 Oct 2008 14:26:19 -0000 Message-ID: <48E62B8A.7010102@php.net> Date: Fri, 03 Oct 2008 09:26:18 -0500 Organization: dealnews.com User-Agent: Thunderbird/3.0a2 (Macintosh; 2008072822) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Greg Beaver CC: internals@lists.php.net References: <48D7F5EF.3090202@zend.com> <48E42CD4.8010000@gmail.com> <48E42F68.9060000@php.net> <48E51F81.4010906@chiaraquartet.net> In-Reply-To: <48E51F81.4010906@chiaraquartet.net> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: namespace issues From: brianlmoon@php.net (Brian Moon) Greg Beaver wrote: > This is a bit amusing to read if one takes a step back :). You should > know that there is quite a wide variety of opinions amongst internals > developers about the importance of functions vs. classes. One > interesting point is that none of the internals developers I know who > use functions primarily seem to care about or want namespaces, so they > have been almost completely silent on implementation details. That is probably because we are all accustomed to naming our functions the way Phorum has, phorum_foo(). C developers have no issue with this. And yeah, if I step back and think about it, I really don't want them for MY functions. I want them for everyone else's functions. Because they are not good developers and name their functions poorly. > To all: your input is heard, and those who actually will do the > committing are working very, very hard both on and off list to try to > find a solution that will satisfy the largest number of developers. Thank you Greg. I wish that long ago when I had karma I had kept working on the internals and kept my C skills sharp. They have atrophied Brian Moon brianlmoon@php.net