Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40823 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 42259 invoked from network); 1 Oct 2008 17:16:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 1 Oct 2008 17:16:49 -0000 X-Host-Fingerprint: 24.247.219.180 24-247-219-180.dhcp.cdwr.mi.charter.com Received: from [24.247.219.180] ([24.247.219.180:24541] helo=localhost.localdomain) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 49/5C-04812-F70B3E84 for ; Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:16:48 -0400 Message-ID: <49.5C.04812.F70B3E84@pb1.pair.com> To: phpdoc@lists.php.net,internals@lists.php.net Date: Wed, 01 Oct 2008 13:17:21 -0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 References: <7f3ed2c30810010639q445b94b3m637ed929215d1cc6@mail.gmail.com> In-Reply-To: X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.7 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Posted-By: 24.247.219.180 Subject: Re: [PHP-DOC] [DOC] Commit messages dead? From: auroraeosrose@gmail.com (Elizabeth M Smith) [snip] > Many of us - 'documentors' - (if not all) are programmers and used to use > CVS and other versioning system. But this takes some extra time that IMHO it > shouldn't. If you want to "spread the word" and get lots of people to help > in docs, I believe this kind of thing that Launchpad uses is a go. I'm very > well aware that this takes time and not every contributor may actually help > with good docs, but it could be moderated. [snip] 100% yes - the initial hurtle to getting new people writing docs is teaching them docbook and cvs. You can whine all you want about "how easy it is" - but it is NOT a zero learning curve and there are no good (free) docbook tools on the systems most people use on the desktop (yes, I mean Windows - and no people are not going to switch OS's for docbook tools). Writing in XML is not a natural thing. An online interface where people can edit docs would seriously boost people helping out. Why do you think there are so many user notes in the PHP manual ;) However...you will have to wade through the bad docs too. And I have no solution for dealing with the "three million tools" issues. Thanks, Elizabeth Smith