Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40733 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 43647 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2008 09:09:57 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 2008 09:09:57 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.147 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.147 unknown Received: from [64.99.136.147] ([64.99.136.147:35092] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 9C/32-30545-F58FDD84 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 05:09:56 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay08.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 7CF5624D651; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:09:49 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,969c4b69651bb95a,fffa26903f35c97c,steph@php.net,,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1540:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2194:2199:2379:2393:2559:2562:2693:2828:3027:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4470:5007:6119:6248:6261:7653:7875:7903:8792:9040:9108,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-63.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.63]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf09.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 09:09:48 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003101c92081$05212ca0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> To: "Greg Beaver" Cc: "Stanislav Malyshev" , "PHP Internals" References: <9E3A4397-3595-42D8-BF73-7F7575B93772@pooteeweet.org> <003501c92037$9512fef0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48DD7E3D.5060708@zend.com> <006701c92039$6245dc20$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48DDB24A.7090705@chiaraquartet.net> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 10:11:24 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") Hi Greg, > Steph: the limited solution proposed by Stas and company (removing > functions [and I would add constants]/fixing name resolution) *is* a > basic solution that can be expanded on. I outlined the steps in my > reply. It's the best solution to the problem, not an imperfect one. A > namespace solution that works brilliantly for classes will satisfy at > least 2/3 of the users who want it. Great! So why isn't it already in CVS? > Adding support for functions, constants and even variables is actually > quite do-able with the solution I suggested (different separator between > namespace name and function/constant/variable name) and can be added > easily. Ah.... that's why it isn't already in. I agree with you that this would be a workable solution for 99% of the problems uncovered so far, but... man, it's fugly! - Steph