Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40728 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28338 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2008 07:45:38 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 2008 07:45:38 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=indeyets@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=indeyets@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 209.85.217.14 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: indeyets@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 209.85.217.14 mail-gx0-f14.google.com Received: from [209.85.217.14] ([209.85.217.14:60040] helo=mail-gx0-f14.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 4A/A1-63390-2A4EDD84 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:45:38 -0400 Received: by gxk7 with SMTP id 7so8896067gxk.23 for ; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:45:35 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type :content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition:references; bh=SqfQaYbk4S7BP5dYMaHDIyCppzEVAplMDvX/p60i/cc=; b=imUCUT8OYB1jndr2GMzoyX7WPBPqZsjOS3H/R++nD4piRRyuaN3fkRhqiV5EaSKGsR 0zbpmKA43mRW6s2GRzal4j38JPuzOu0wMOnps2bTdc7x7fTZDAWTh+NZYkmjsto8wijd EJAe1gqMO28Htsjrjz2Xz/B1PT3CDR6IXMmz0= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:cc:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:content-transfer-encoding:content-disposition :references; b=FYo5ElmJGv+Ph4Z9nrAEa+7PkvZRgIfdiA1aIWFpus9OD0SyqGdd5RNLpTo6sAjHDg Ieq7iZyv/7qW2PtiP0UiuO5HlfvHn9AalxYsJ5AXB7FJdRhk36IdcjPT29/qolIDc8HF hZuxJE8G7Pe3bLlYRKJ1mBVe68u/UoFs1hZgo= Received: by 10.150.155.13 with SMTP id c13mr3493535ybe.162.1222501535714; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.150.186.11 with HTTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:45:35 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 11:45:35 +0400 To: "Greg Beaver" Cc: "Steph Fox" , "Stanislav Malyshev" , "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: <48DDB24A.7090705@chiaraquartet.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline References: <9E3A4397-3595-42D8-BF73-7F7575B93772@pooteeweet.org> <003501c92037$9512fef0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48DD7E3D.5060708@zend.com> <006701c92039$6245dc20$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48DDB24A.7090705@chiaraquartet.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 From: indeyets@gmail.com ("Alexey Zakhlestin") On Sat, Sep 27, 2008 at 8:10 AM, Greg Beaver wrote: > I have to respectfully disagree with both of you: > > Stas: choosing an imperfect solution when a better one already exists is > just plain stupid, and isn't what you want *or* what you suggested - the > solution you, Liz, Marcus and Andi proposed is not imperfect, it is > consistent, robust and far better than the existing CVS implementation > of namespaces. Don't sell yourself so short! :) > > Steph: the limited solution proposed by Stas and company (removing > functions [and I would add constants]/fixing name resolution) *is* a > basic solution that can be expanded on. I outlined the steps in my > reply. It's the best solution to the problem, not an imperfect one. A > namespace solution that works brilliantly for classes will satisfy at > least 2/3 of the users who want it. I guess, I am in these 2/3's. Limited solution (with a promise to extend it later) would work for me, perfectly. -- Alexey Zakhlestin http://blog.milkfarmsoft.com/