Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40721 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 72527 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2008 00:28:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 2008 00:28:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:50780] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 79/B8-63390-B3E7DD84 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:28:44 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Sat, 27 Sep 2008 03:28:48 +0300 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:28:45 -0700 Message-ID: <48DD7E3D.5060708@zend.com> Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 17:28:45 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.17 (Windows/20080914) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steph Fox CC: PHP Internals References: <9E3A4397-3595-42D8-BF73-7F7575B93772@pooteeweet.org> <003501c92037$9512fef0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <003501c92037$9512fef0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 27 Sep 2008 00:28:45.0361 (UTC) FILETIME=[00647210:01C92038] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Does that mean we can drop namespace support until 6.0? > > Please? > Rationale: > > 1) It's uber-contentious, and all the good stuff's only just starting to > turn up that would allow sane design decisions I don't know what "uber-contentios" means, but no solution is going to satisfy 100% of people. The solution we have now is good for many uses, even if not for 100% of them, and delaying this much needed feature because of couple of vocal people of the list is just insane. > 2) If it's released as-is, there would be no going back due to BC concerns Going back to what? To endless discussions about separator characters? No, we are not, and good riddance. Imperfect solution is much better than perpetual absence of any solution. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com