Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40720 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 71174 invoked from network); 27 Sep 2008 00:24:15 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 27 Sep 2008 00:24:15 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=steph@php.net; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=steph@php.net; spf=unknown; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: unknown (pb1.pair.com: domain php.net does not designate 64.99.136.149 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: steph@php.net X-Host-Fingerprint: 64.99.136.149 unknown Received: from [64.99.136.149] ([64.99.136.149:40189] helo=smtprelay-virgin.hostedemail.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 30/78-63390-A2D7DD84 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:24:15 -0400 Received: from filter.hostedemail.com (ff-bigip1 [10.5.19.254]) by smtprelay06.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with SMTP id 3ECA55273B6; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:24:08 +0000 (UTC) X-SpamScore: 1 X-Spam-Summary: 2,0,0,697cda042d8ea32f,fffa26903f35c97c,steph@php.net,,RULES_HIT:355:379:539:540:541:542:543:567:599:601:966:973:988:989:1155:1156:1260:1277:1311:1313:1314:1345:1437:1515:1516:1518:1534:1541:1587:1593:1594:1711:1730:1747:1766:1792:2073:2075:2078:2196:2199:2393:2553:2559:2562:2693:2828:3027:3352:3622:3865:3866:3867:3868:3869:3870:3871:3872:3873:3874:4250:4385:5007:6261:7653:7875,0,RBL:none,CacheIP:none,Bayesian:0.5,0.5,0.5,Netcheck:none,DomainCache:0,MSF:not bulk,SPF:,MSBL:none,DNSBL:none Received: from foxbox (62-31-252-63.cable.ubr07.shef.blueyonder.co.uk [62.31.252.63]) (Authenticated sender: steph.fox) by omf12.hostedemail.com (Postfix) with ESMTP; Sat, 27 Sep 2008 00:24:07 +0000 (UTC) Message-ID: <003501c92037$9512fef0$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> To: "Lukas Kahwe Smith" , "PHP Internals" , =?iso-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= References: <9E3A4397-3595-42D8-BF73-7F7575B93772@pooteeweet.org> Date: Sat, 27 Sep 2008 01:25:42 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 6.00.2900.2180 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.00.2900.2180 X-session-marker: 73746570682E666F78 Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] alpha3 From: steph@php.net ("Steph Fox") Hey Lukas, Johannes, all... > We are not yet ready to schedule alpha3, but I am hoping we can do it in > the first half of October. This is just a heads up to tell everybody that > yes there will be an alpha3 and a general timeframe. > > This is not an invitation to go crazy and start committing features at > all. If you have something that you think is very low risk, > unquestionably useful, with ready tests and patches, then feel free to > approach me and Johannes. Otherwise just help us to get 5.3.0 out the > door, so that you can add whatever niceties into 5.3.1 :) Does that mean we can drop namespace support until 6.0? Please? Rationale: 1) It's uber-contentious, and all the good stuff's only just starting to turn up that would allow sane design decisions 2) If it's released as-is, there would be no going back due to BC concerns Simple as. I'm just worried about it all, and 5.3 should've been out months ago because it's otherwise brilliant. - Steph