Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40719 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 37120 invoked from network); 26 Sep 2008 20:12:18 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 26 Sep 2008 20:12:18 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:39885] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id E3/93-63390-2224DD84 for ; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 16:12:18 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 83CEB1EBC01B; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 20:12:38 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 2j-hQfO3jyK7; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:12:37 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id E3C871EBC019; Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:12:36 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "Michael Wallner" , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: To: "Hannes Magnusson" In-Reply-To: <7f3ed2c30809261306u199cbea3g901da929b54df67c@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v929.2) Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:12:08 +0200 References: <03.52.27158.9D5A2D84@pb1.pair.com> <1D.C1.19781.C63BCD84@pb1.pair.com> <94232D93-D448-4403-A81D-2EB5904AAB8D@pooteeweet.org> <7f3ed2c30809261306u199cbea3g901da929b54df67c@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.929.2) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: [PATCH] Backport of HEADs output API] From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 26.09.2008, at 22:06, Hannes Magnusson wrote: > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 21:38, Lukas Kahwe Smith > wrote: >> >> and I are a bit worried, that this code did not see that much >> testing since >> it was checked in to HEAD quite a while ago. And seeing that the >> backport is > > That sentence worries me a bit. Are you advocating developing new > features in 5.x branches rather then HEAD? Not at all. I am not sure how you even read that into what I said. > That code has been in HEAD for months, I so no reason not to merge it. > We are in alpha phase for a reason just like this. All I said was that the fact that it has been in HEAD is no proof that there are no BC issues or even new bugs in it. Again Johannes asked for this to be merged long long long ago and nobody reacted. Now we are at alpha2, hoping to release the last alpha soon. We have plenty of other big stuff that really wants to make it out of the door. BTW: we have a similar situation for mcrypt. We have "cleanups" (though Derick does not define them as such) in HEAD, which have not been merged to 5.3. I dont like this at all, since either cleanups make sense or they dont. However the larger the cleanups, the messier the old code, the trickier it is to get BC just right and the less I think it makes sense to add such cleanups now. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org