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Date: Fri, 26 Sep 2008 22:04:39 +0200
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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [Fwd: [PATCH] Backport of HEADs output API]
From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith)


On 26.09.2008, at 21:59, Pierre Joye wrote:

> On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 9:38 PM, Lukas Kahwe Smith  
> <mls@pooteeweet.org> wrote:
>
>> So unless you can take our worries away in terms of BC issues, I  
>> guess we
>> would prefer to leave this patch out of PHP 5.3.
>
> I strongly disagree, for two reasons:
>
> 1. We are going to release an alpha3, that's the perfect time for  
> such change

Perfect might be overstating things. Lets say it makes it possible to  
even consider it.

> 2. The OB code is messy right now, Mike's work cleaned it up and makes
> it more maintainable. 5.3 is going to be here for a long time, let
> make our work easier.


Well but messy just means its even harder to ensure BC. Like I said in  
my mail, we would have loved to have seen this earlier (when Johannes  
originally asked for this). The fact that nobody stepped up back then  
is also telling us RM's that there is a definitive risk that if there  
are issues, we might end up with a similar situation as back then.  
Without having evaluated the code in the last detail, it seems that OB  
stuff is not small or self contained by any stretch of the definition.  
Given that this patch fixes no existing bugs, we have decided that its  
too risky to do right before what we hope will be the final alpha3 in  
one of the most feature rich minor releases in PHP history. We do not  
want to risk delay this release for something that might be messy, but  
has/does work more or less reliably for people.

regards,
Lukas Kahwe Smith
mls@pooteeweet.org