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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] true namespaces, yet another point of view
From: rpanning@gmail.com (Ryan Panning)

Steph Fox wrote:
>> Lets just let it die. It is un-needed, un-wanted by many, and the end
>> result seems to be less that optimal, or even a true implementation
>> of namespaces.
> 
> Oddly enough, I agree with Kevin with my heart and soul. But then I hear 
> the howls of outrage from the Other Side, who campaigned without ruth to 
> get namespaces into PHP in the first place.
> 
> Would someone with authority (Andi? Derick?) like to give an overview of 
> the pros, cons and issues at this point? It's quite difficult to follow 
> all these tiny, endless myco-esque threads, and I share Greg's allergy 
> to wikis for the simple reason that the model is similar. Each item 
> sparks another.
> 
> - Steph

Sorry to clutter the list with yet another post but I am starting to 
second this feeling. As someone who has already started developing with 
the 5.3 branch and using namespaces, all this discussion is turning me 
away. There are so many issues still at this point, how can they 
possibly be resolved in reasonable amount of time for a 5.3 release?

(sigh) I'd rather remove what namespacing I've started already and wait 
for a solid state, then have to change code later and have to deal with 
multiple possibilities. I have my opinions how I would use namespaces 
but have not really voiced them just because there has been way to much 
discussion. There should be a better way to voice opinions than this 
madness. IMO :)