Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40592 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 28996 invoked from network); 21 Sep 2008 08:05:51 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 21 Sep 2008 08:05:51 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=jochem@iamjochem.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=jochem@iamjochem.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain iamjochem.com from 194.109.193.121 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: jochem@iamjochem.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 194.109.193.121 mx1.moulin.nl Linux 2.6 Received: from [194.109.193.121] ([194.109.193.121:35400] helo=mx1.moulin.nl) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id FF/1D-65213-E5006D84 for ; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 04:05:50 -0400 Received: from localhost (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E7872875D5; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:47 +0200 (CEST) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at moulin.nl Received: from mx1.moulin.nl ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (mx1.moulin.nl [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id ysvKO+vPOZTA; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [10.0.13.104] (ip129-15-211-87.adsl2.static.versatel.nl [87.211.15.129]) by mx1.moulin.nl (Postfix) with ESMTP id 1E35C2875C3; Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:41 +0200 (CEST) Message-ID: <48D60055.3040105@iamjochem.com> Date: Sun, 21 Sep 2008 10:05:41 +0200 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Macintosh/20080707) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Steph Fox CC: RQuadling@GoogleMail.com, PHP Internals List References: <48D47532.8080102@chiaraquartet.net> <10845a340809201643q59e27211i471e09241f7253b1@mail.gmail.com> <003301c91b7c$b2552930$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> <48D59477.90801@iamjochem.com> <006e01c91b82$17b81c10$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> In-Reply-To: <006e01c91b82$17b81c10$3ffc1f3e@foxbox> X-Enigmail-Version: 0.95.6 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] solving the namespace conflict issues between function/static method class constant/ns constant From: jochem@iamjochem.com (Jochem Maas) Steph Fox schreef: > Hi Jochem, > >> It seems to hav escaped everyone that Greg's latest proposal doesn't >> change >> the namespace seperator token, instead it comes with a new concept of >> namespace >> member [token]. > > No, that didn't escape me at all. oh, good! > I was responding to the OP. > > To be clear, I have worked with Greg. The experience left me with large > amounts of respect for his creativity and analytical abilities. They > exceed mine by a number of quadzillions. I've been conversing with him over the last couple of weeks regarding namespaces off-list and have every reason to second that thought. > > That doesn't mean Greg's always in the right, but it does mean he's > always worth hearing. I know for sure I'm not the only person on this > list who sees him that way, and most of the others have far more > influence than I do. which makes it all the more sad that the only person taking a real interest in his [latest namespace] proposal is the one person who's completely adamant that there is nothing in the current namespace implementation that needs addressing (all issues come down to 'your using it wrong') > Next time, perhaps you and I should both let sleeping dogs lie ;) I don't get the use of that idiom in this context. I think the 'namespace' dog has been up and about for a while already, granted some would like to see it put down permanently :-) > > - Steph