Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40566 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39380 invoked from network); 19 Sep 2008 12:30:32 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 19 Sep 2008 12:30:32 -0000 Received: from [127.0.0.1] ([127.0.0.1:20369]) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ECSTREAM id E1/DC-08965-86B93D84 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:30:32 -0400 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain Sun.COM from 192.18.6.21 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM X-Host-Fingerprint: 192.18.6.21 gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com Solaris 10 (beta) Received: from [192.18.6.21] ([192.18.6.21:55167] helo=gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 2F/1C-08965-7D693D84 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 08:11:05 -0400 Received: from fe-emea-10.sun.com (gmp-eb-lb-1-fe3.eu.sun.com [192.18.6.10]) by gmp-eb-inf-1.sun.com (8.13.7+Sun/8.12.9) with ESMTP id m8JCB0wB029781 for ; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 12:11:00 GMT Received: from conversion-daemon.fe-emea-10.sun.com by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) id <0K7F00901XEFUU00@fe-emea-10.sun.com> (original mail from Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM) for internals@lists.php.net; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:11:00 +0100 (BST) Received: from [80.233.255.232] by fe-emea-10.sun.com (Sun Java System Messaging Server 6.2-8.04 (built Feb 28 2007)) with ESMTPSA id <0K7F00C4MZ602510@fe-emea-10.sun.com>; Fri, 19 Sep 2008 13:10:54 +0100 (BST) Date: Fri, 19 Sep 2008 15:10:48 +0300 In-reply-to: <48D38AB6.7070700@asbjorn.biz> Sender: Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM To: =?UTF-8?B?QXNiasO4cm4gU2xvdGggVMO4bm5lc2Vu?= Cc: internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <48D396C8.2060800@sun.com> MIME-version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-transfer-encoding: 8BIT References: <7f3ed2c30809190150yef2b8a0ya706baa5ac004294@mail.gmail.com> <48D38AB6.7070700@asbjorn.biz> User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (X11/20080720) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] php7- dropping the $ from the variable name - rfc From: Andrey.Hristov@Sun.COM (Andrey Hristov) Asbjørn Sloth Tønnesen wrote: > Hannes Magnusson wrote: >> I totally agree. Its really annoying needing to type $ all the time, >> not to mention how hard it is on Norwegian keyboards. Lets replace it >> with £ ! > > Like most programming languages PHP is optimized for American keyboard > layout, deal with it! > > Fx. I especially like the placement of the MySQL escape character ` on > Nordic keyboards: press Alt-gr and |, release them and then press space. > >> There is even a "patch" available: >> http://php.markmail.org/message/jsex75rowudeu2nr > > Way to go, lets make a port of all major programming languages, to all > keyboard layouts. ;-) > Those of use who use non-latin based languages in a better position - need to learn a new layout, the US one. Even in Bulgaria althought there is a national standard for a keyboard layout second one emerged during the years which is based on a transliteration of QWERTY. However, using the QWERTY layout one is slower compared to the case when using the national standard. OTOH, layout switching is pretty easy nowadays, you might install a qwerty layout for programming (/me has nowadays US, DE and BG installed to handle all the communities I am involved in :) Best, Andrey -- Andrey Hristov, Connectors Software Developer, Database Group Sun Microsystems GmbH, Sonnenallee 1, 85551 Kirchheim-Heimstetten Amtsgericht Muenchen: HRB161028 Geschaeftsfuehrer: Thomas Schroeder, Wolfgang Engels, Dr. Roland Boemer Vorsitzender des Aufsichtsrates: Martin Haering