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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: towards a 5.3 release
From: auroraeosrose@shitennou.com (Elizabeth M Smith)

Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> Hi!
> 
>> And what happens when you have two libraries and each has their own Date
>> implementation? How is that any different? If you could alias in
>> functions, you'd simply alias them in differently - call one _() and one
>>   new_gettext - that's the point of aliasing, to avoid collisions
> 
> It's not different. But if you can have _() and new_gettext() - how
> exactly is it so much better than Foo::_() and Bar::_()? So different
> that the former is OK but the latter is absolutely useless? Just because
> it the latter has ::?

What is the point?  Wouldn't it be just as well to have static methods
in a class instead?  What do I gain by having functions in namespaces?
For me it's useless because there's another way to do exactly the same
thing...don't we already have enough of that in PHP?

>> libraries.  Let's just say it was an eye opening experience, and where
>> my opinion that functions in namespace are essentially useless came from
>> , since it forces procedural coders to totally alter the way they're
>> accustomed to writing code.
> 
> Well, yes, I guess it would make procedural coders be acquainted with
> ::. Which is IMHO about time if they want namespaces - namespaces is OO
> feature, so they can't have it both ways - use the sweet OO goodies but
> stay with old procedural mindset. :)

hehe - devil's advocate here - in that case why have functions in
namespaces at all?  I can see a case for constants ...but not functions.
 If functions in namespaces won't have the same treatment or features as
classes why bother ;)

Thanks,
Elizabeth