Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:40353 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 67258 invoked from network); 8 Sep 2008 17:34:04 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 8 Sep 2008 17:34:04 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:23977] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0A/77-33249-90265C84 for ; Mon, 08 Sep 2008 13:34:03 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 20:35:10 +0300 Received: from [192.168.16.68] ([192.168.16.68]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Mon, 8 Sep 2008 10:35:07 -0700 Message-ID: <48C5624A.1040901@zend.com> Date: Mon, 08 Sep 2008 10:35:06 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Greg Beaver , PHP Developers Mailing List , Dmitry Stogov References: <486FA5FB.1000300@php.net> <48C55855.4080602@zend.com> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 08 Sep 2008 17:35:07.0117 (UTC) FILETIME=[3C2171D0:01C911D9] Subject: Re: towards a 5.3 release From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > I am mainly baseing myself on the feedback I got at: > http://pooteeweet.org/blog/1288 OK, will read through it. > I think Liz summarized the gripes best (especially the second paragraph > is important to note): > "I've been using namespaces since then went into 5.3. From my experience > functions in namespaces are basically unusable (you can't alias in a > function like you can a class from a namespace - plus there's the > ambiguity issue with static methods). Ambiguity seems to be unavoidable, unfortunately - that's why initial version didn't have functions. But I'm not sure about "alias in" comment - what exactly is meant here? Did you understand it? -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com