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Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Inconsistencies in 5.3
From: greg@chiaraquartet.net (Gregory Beaver)

Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote:
> 
> On 13.08.2008, at 22:18, Stanislav Malyshev wrote:
> 
>> Simply include a script from two locations with different namespaces
>> or one
>>>
>>> with namespace and the otherone without.
>>
>> I'm afraid you misunderstand how namespaces work. As I explained
>> numerous times, namespaces are file-local, and this when including
>> file, it does not matter a bit what was including context.
> 
> I think Marcus is talking about files that are included that do not
> specify a namespace explicitly. In this situation the context does matter.
> 
> We do not know if the developer in question is aware that the context
> would matter in this case. Actually like I said in a previous email it
> would be nice to at least not throw a warning if the file that is
> included specifies an explicit namespace (I assume that is possible?).
> Maybe adding a new "include" is a solution. This way developers can say
> explicitly what they want to do without having to suppress the warning.
> Then again quickly some smartass developer is going to teach people that
> these annoying warnings go away if you just use this new include
> everywhere. Then again, I am not sure if I even have my head wrapped
> around this entire namespace thing.

Hi,

Currently, if you include a file within a class method that contains
function definitions, they remain functions outside the class.  If you
include a file that contains a class.

In short, only global cpde is executed in the scope, and there is no
precedent in PHP to redefine re-usable elements based on scope.

Why would namespaces be any different?  This whole argument makes no
sense to me.

Greg