Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39938 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 1514 invoked from network); 13 Aug 2008 22:30:45 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 13 Aug 2008 22:30:45 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:63609] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id F7/97-63398-49063A84 for ; Wed, 13 Aug 2008 18:30:45 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 14 Aug 2008 01:31:33 +0300 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:30:55 -0700 Message-ID: <48A360A0.5080601@zend.com> Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2008 15:30:56 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <909776579.20080803142659@marcus-boerger.de> <48A09FF4.1030101@zend.com> <7f3ed2c30808111411t51553771j389f05c3436bc625@mail.gmail.com> <48A0C415.9090104@zend.com> <48A0D579.2000000@zend.com> <48A0DBAE.2010401@zend.com> <496879481.20080812153636@marcus-boerger.de> <279600845.20080812225135@marcus-boerger.de> <1218621323.4926.1.camel@localhost> <1341995942.20080813152134@marcus-boerger.de> <1218634532.4926.5.camel@localhost> <1714092517.20080813194342@marcus-boerger.de> <48A32817.4020105@zend.com> <10910129111.20080813213721@marcus-boerger.de> <48A33D86.1010806@zend.com> <59637275.20080813221213@marcus-boerger.de> <48A34180.8070601@zend.com> <0D64C8C4-2136-4D6B-9EBD-B5956C3044FC@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 13 Aug 2008 22:30:55.0738 (UTC) FILETIME=[406495A0:01C8FD94] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Inconsistencies in 5.3 From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > So one more thing. If people either explicitly require all their files > up front or make use of a properly designed autoload scheme, they will > side step this problem. So maybe the solution indeed is to have this Which "this problem"? There's no problem there! > warning with a link to guidelines on how to do this properly. With > explicit "upfront" requires and autoload, there is no need to have > includes inside classes, except for the scenario of a template engine. > Not sure about that one .. Include inside classes work just fine. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com