Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39884 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 83592 invoked from network); 12 Aug 2008 15:37:40 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 12 Aug 2008 15:37:40 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:41496] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 90/B3-04075-14EA1A84 for ; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 11:37:39 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 2687B4144007; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 15:39:19 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id fPjRYHrcqFAw; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:39:16 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [172.25.51.165] (tmo-113-2.customers.d1-online.com [80.187.113.2]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id C844A4144006; Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:39:11 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Marcus Boerger , php-dev Message-ID: To: Antony Dovgal In-Reply-To: <48A1ACBC.7020808@daylessday.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 17:35:23 +0200 References: <4892E15D.1080004@daylessday.org> <48A19D61.6080502@daylessday.org> <1461769324.20080812165923@marcus-boerger.de> <48A1A6A4.1050801@daylessday.org> <1257013106.20080812172357@marcus-boerger.de> <48A1ACBC.7020808@daylessday.org> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] enabling everything by default From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 12.08.2008, at 17:31, Antony Dovgal wrote: > On 12.08.2008 19:23, Marcus Boerger wrote: >> If you still insist on disabling it, you should at least wait till >> we are >> closer to release so that we get the chance to fix more of these. > > Are you saying we need to enable by default all extensions in order > to fix their bugs? > I don't recall seeing such practice before. Tony, you have made your point. Please give the developers in question as well as RM's the benefit of the doubt here. The these extensions have been enabled because that is what the bulk of the core developers seemed to have agreed upon. If we, the RMs, see that these extensions are not yet ready, we will not hesitate to pull any of them. We will make such a decision before we go into the RC phase. Until then it would be only fair to not push the developers in question into such a defensive corner. They should spend their open source brain cycles on fixing bugs not in this thread. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org