Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39652 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 62681 invoked from network); 5 Aug 2008 06:38:29 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 5 Aug 2008 06:38:29 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=dmitry@zend.com; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=dmitry@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: dmitry@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:61966] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 67/43-45722-365F7984 for ; Tue, 05 Aug 2008 02:38:28 -0400 Received: from [10.1.10.25] ([10.1.10.25]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Tue, 5 Aug 2008 09:39:06 +0300 Message-ID: <4897F54F.7080909@zend.com> Date: Tue, 05 Aug 2008 10:38:07 +0400 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.16 (Windows/20080708) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Moriyoshi Koizumi CC: Marcus Boerger , internals@lists.php.net References: <909776579.20080803142659@marcus-boerger.de> <4896A7C4.8090503@zend.com> <4110083360.20080804104233@marcus-boerger.de> <4896EA3C.6010203@zend.com> <4897E9B5.9020006@at.wakwak.com> In-Reply-To: <4897E9B5.9020006@at.wakwak.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 05 Aug 2008 06:39:08.0146 (UTC) FILETIME=[F64F9520:01C8F6C5] Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Inconsistencies in 5.3 From: dmitry@zend.com (Dmitry Stogov) Allowing "use" inside function body assuming allowing it everywhere. $x = function($arg) { if ($arg) { use $a; } else { use $b; } }; I don't like such ability and of course we won't be able to use "use" keyword as it will conflict with import statement. Thanks. Dmitry. Moriyoshi Koizumi wrote: > Dmitry Stogov wrote: >> >> >> Marcus Boerger wrote: >>> Hello Dmitry, >>> >>> Monday, August 4, 2008, 8:55:00 AM, you wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Marcus, >>> >>>> see below >>> >>>> Marcus Boerger wrote: >>>>> Hello Internals, >>>>> >>>>> please let's not introduce new inconsistencies. Rather lets make new >>>>> stuff consistent with old stuff during the alpha phase of 5.3. >>>>> >>>>> 1) new keyword 'use'. Semantically it is the same as 'static' or >>>>> 'global' >>>>> so it should be used in the same location. >>> >>>> For me 'use' is the best keyword as it says that closure uses >>>> variables from current content. (the same keyword is used for import >>>> from namespaces) >>> >>> To be clear, I wasn't complaining about the keyword per se. I just >>> prefer >>> it to be inside the curly braces of a closure next to global rather >>> than in >>> front of it. >>> >> >> No. The list of lexical variables is a part of the closure definition. >> >> The earlier implementation had "lexical" keyword which worked as you >> are suggesting, but it was much unclear. > > I don't think there are many differences in ambiguity between > > $closure = function ($arg) { use $a; > ... > }; > > and > > $closure = function ($arg) use ($a) { > }; > > Moriyoshi >