Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39298 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 20768 invoked from network); 25 Jul 2008 07:48:27 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 25 Jul 2008 07:48:27 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=rasmus@lerdorf.com; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=rasmus@lerdorf.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain lerdorf.com from 204.11.219.139 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: rasmus@lerdorf.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 204.11.219.139 mail.lerdorf.com Received: from [204.11.219.139] ([204.11.219.139:54952] helo=mail.lerdorf.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 7B/89-22699-94589884 for ; Fri, 25 Jul 2008 03:48:26 -0400 Received: from Macintosh-194.local (socks3.corp.yahoo.com [216.145.54.15]) (authenticated bits=0) by mail.lerdorf.com (8.14.3/8.14.3/Debian-5) with ESMTP id m6P7mK8q031541 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NOT); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:48:21 -0700 Message-ID: <48898544.5080100@lerdorf.com> Date: Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:48:20 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird/3.0a2pre (Macintosh; 2008071516) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: marius popa CC: PHP Developers Mailing List References: <40FEB6C9-9B66-4761-8B9C-0E70158D9962@wanderingknights.org> In-Reply-To: Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Greylist: Sender succeeded SMTP AUTH authentication, not delayed by milter-greylist-3.0 (mail.lerdorf.com [204.11.219.139]); Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:48:21 -0700 (PDT) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] CVS to SVN Migration From: rasmus@lerdorf.com (Rasmus Lerdorf) marius popa wrote: > On Fri, Jul 25, 2008 at 5:06 AM, Gwynne Raskind > wrote: >> At this point it's clear that moving from CVS to SVN for PHP has become a >> more or less official project. As such, there is a new mailing list > isn't better to migrate to git or mercurial ? > http://weblog.rubyonrails.org/2008/4/2/rails-is-moving-from-svn-to-git > it's faster and better on my opinion (why wasting time to convert > later from svn to git ) We have 1000+ people with commit access, many of whom are not very technical. We need something with mature Windows tools for those folks and something that isn't completely different to their way of working. The git and hg integration with svn is also good so any developer who prefers to have a local repository can very easily use either git or hg and easily merge into the central svn repository. We don't need to be on the bleeding edge of revision control systems. In fact, I prefer to very much be a very very slow follower in that particular area to make sure that all tools are extremely mature by the time we go anywhere near them. The last thing we want to do is slow down PHP development any further by forcing people to fight with a bleeding edge set of tools. When a winner eventually emerges in the de-centralized revision control world and everyone creates tools for all the various platforms, we'll have a look, but I predict that to be years away. -Rasmus