Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39118 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 73774 invoked from network); 20 Jul 2008 20:30:16 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 20 Jul 2008 20:30:16 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:46246] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 76/8A-33537-A1A93884 for ; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 16:03:38 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 446EB1EBC014; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 20:04:28 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id 6T-LxzJf4ODE; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:04:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4C091414400A; Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:04:27 +0200 (CEST) Cc: "Lars Strojny" , internals@lists.php.net Message-ID: <614DCEAD-CBB3-4D91-BFCF-CDC963D1C89E@pooteeweet.org> To: Nathan Nobbe In-Reply-To: <7dd2dc0b0807192245u2ec0ef7fw469b21ae3fc4f2f2@mail.gmail.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Sun, 20 Jul 2008 22:02:06 +0200 References: <1216464955.1815.0.camel@localhost> <7dd2dc0b0807192245u2ec0ef7fw469b21ae3fc4f2f2@mail.gmail.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] [RFC] E_USER_DEPRECATED From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 20.07.2008, at 07:45, Nathan Nobbe wrote: > On Sat, Jul 19, 2008 at 4:55 AM, Lars Strojny > wrote: > >> Hi everbody, >> >> regarding my mail from yesterday, I've also created an RFC for the >> new >> error level. >> >> http://wiki.php.net/rfc/e-user-deprecated-warning > > > i definitely like the E_USER_DEPRECATED :D im curious though, about > E_DEPRECATED. is this for deprecated functions at the C level, or > just the > php api? the reason i ask is because deprecation notices are > already issued > via the E_STRICT level, for example, when using is_a() today, w/ > E_STRICT > enabled, the following is generated > > Strict standards: is_a(): Deprecated. Please use the instanceof > operator in > ... > > would, perhaps, the deprecation level for is_a() move to > E_DEPRECATED (i > noticed its still there in 5.3)? deprecation of is_a() was a mistake that has been reverted. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org