Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39068 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 87542 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2008 19:00:25 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2008 19:00:25 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=stas@zend.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=stas@zend.com; sender-id=pass Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain zend.com designates 212.25.124.163 as permitted sender) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: stas@zend.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 212.25.124.163 il-gw1.zend.com Windows 2000 SP4, XP SP1 Received: from [212.25.124.163] ([212.25.124.163:17278] helo=il-gw1.zend.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id ED/CB-31728-7C69F784 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 15:00:24 -0400 Received: from us-ex1.zend.com ([192.168.16.5]) by il-gw1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 22:00:51 +0300 Received: from [192.168.16.110] ([192.168.16.110]) by us-ex1.zend.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.3959); Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:00:48 -0700 Message-ID: <487F96E0.1050208@zend.com> Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 12:00:48 -0700 Organization: Zend Technologies User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (Windows/20080421) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: Greg Beaver , PHP Developers Mailing List , Dmitry Stogov References: <486FA5FB.1000300@php.net> <4872B5D4.1000205@zend.com> <4877CE04.4070104@chiaraquartet.net> <487F880B.2090002@zend.com> <6A0D6007-9076-466B-9AF8-018451145466@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <6A0D6007-9076-466B-9AF8-018451145466@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-OriginalArrivalTime: 17 Jul 2008 19:00:48.0207 (UTC) FILETIME=[6C90C5F0:01C8E83F] Subject: Re: towards a 5.3 release From: stas@zend.com (Stanislav Malyshev) Hi! > Of course its predictable. What Greg meant is "error prone". The > difference is if we want to by default lower the chance of programming > mistakes or ensure maximum performance with little effort for users with > autoload (and long include path lists). I think silent performance disaster is much worse than error message which makes it obvious what the mistake was. -- Stanislav Malyshev, Zend Software Architect stas@zend.com http://www.zend.com/ (408)253-8829 MSN: stas@zend.com