Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39065 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 60583 invoked from network); 17 Jul 2008 18:17:21 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 17 Jul 2008 18:17:21 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:52264] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 1B/E5-31728-0BC8F784 for ; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 14:17:21 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 78C244144006; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 18:17:53 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id IF6ywukboug8; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:17:52 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.0.151] (77-57-23-243.dclient.hispeed.ch [77.57.23.243]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 10930414400A; Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:17:50 +0200 (CEST) Cc: Greg Beaver , PHP Developers Mailing List , Dmitry Stogov Message-ID: <859F4F21-EE69-4129-AA73-ADE44CC49746@pooteeweet.org> To: Stanislav Malyshev In-Reply-To: <487F8984.8030309@zend.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Thu, 17 Jul 2008 20:15:52 +0200 References: <486FA5FB.1000300@php.net> <4872B5D4.1000205@zend.com> <4877CE04.4070104@chiaraquartet.net> <487F8984.8030309@zend.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: towards a 5.3 release From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 17.07.2008, at 20:03, Stanislav Malyshev wrote: >> autoload that is). At the same time people who care about >> performance can still work around this behavior (then again those >> that care about optimizations on this level probably do not use >> autload to begin with). > > What's wrong with autoload? You sound like autoload is somehow > contrary to performance, which is not true. There is nothing wrong with autoload. However it adds overhead so if you want super duper high performance, you use explicit includes/ requires with absolute paths instead. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org