Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:39006 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 63913 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2008 14:13:49 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 14:13:49 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=christopher.jones@oracle.com; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=christopher.jones@oracle.com; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain oracle.com from 148.87.113.118 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: christopher.jones@oracle.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 148.87.113.118 rgminet01.oracle.com Linux 2.4/2.6 Received: from [148.87.113.118] ([148.87.113.118:12722] helo=rgminet01.oracle.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id EE/73-54589-A120E784 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 10:13:47 -0400 Received: from agmgw2.us.oracle.com (agmgw2.us.oracle.com [152.68.180.213]) by rgminet01.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.4/Switch-3.1.6) with ESMTP id m6GEDe6X010918; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:40 -0600 Received: from acsmt358.oracle.com (acsmt358.oracle.com [141.146.40.158]) by agmgw2.us.oracle.com (Switch-3.2.0/Switch-3.2.0) with ESMTP id m6G3ibWA023562; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:13:39 -0600 Received: from dhcp-amer-rmdc-csvpn-gw6-141-144-112-76.vpn.oracle.com by acsmt355.oracle.com with ESMTP id 10858737721216217604; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:13:24 -0700 Message-ID: <487E0202.5000808@oracle.com> Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 07:13:22 -0700 User-Agent: Thunderbird 2.0.0.14 (X11/20080505) MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Lukas Kahwe Smith CC: PHP Developers Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Wez Furlong References: <487D120D.9060502@oracle.com> <487D29B1.6090802@oracle.com> <4E4C89B3-E5C4-4542-A95C-1A77061DDDBF@pooteeweet.org> In-Reply-To: <4E4C89B3-E5C4-4542-A95C-1A77061DDDBF@pooteeweet.org> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Brightmail-Tracker: AAAAAQAAAAI= X-Whitelist: TRUE X-Whitelist: TRUE Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan From: christopher.jones@oracle.com (Christopher Jones) Lukas Kahwe Smith wrote: > > On 16.07.2008, at 00:50, Christopher Jones wrote: > >> > We could still support older Oracle versions with an optional >> > download. If we want to be super fancy, we might even include a note >> > in an error message when trying to connect to older versions that >> > there is pdo_oci8 available as an optional download from win.php.net >> > (or whatever our pecl4win.php.net replacement will be). >> >> I'd prefer to keep the status quo instead of making the build more >> complex. The idea was to simplify the distribution and move forward. >> >> The DB versions in question are Oracle 7 - released in 1993, and >> Oracle 8.0 - released in 1997, IIRC. These versions are even more >> uncommon than when PDO_OCI was created in back 2004. > > > Well for Oracle 7 I can definitely see it, but Oracle 8 will still be in > production in plenty of places. I am fine with not supporting them out > of the box, but I think we should try to offer them a download from PECL > by the time 5.3.0 ships. That being said the world will not end for me > if we do not provide this, especially since I assume very few people > will have Oracle 8 and running a PDO based app on windows. Most people > will probably be using ext/oci8 for this kind of setup. Of the Oracle 8.x releases, there will be more 8.1 in use than 8.0 and only the latter is directly affected. Php_pdo_oci.dll will connect to Oracle 8.1. Chris -- Christopher Jones, Oracle Email: christopher.jones@oracle.com Tel: +1 650 506 8630 Blog: http://blogs.oracle.com/opal/ Free PHP Book: http://tinyurl.com/f8jad