Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38998 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 56366 invoked from network); 16 Jul 2008 06:29:43 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 16 Jul 2008 06:29:43 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=mls@pooteeweet.org; sender-id=unknown Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=mls@pooteeweet.org; spf=permerror; sender-id=unknown Received-SPF: error (pb1.pair.com: domain pooteeweet.org from 88.198.8.16 cause and error) X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: mls@pooteeweet.org X-Host-Fingerprint: 88.198.8.16 bigtime.backendmedia.com Linux 2.6 Received: from [88.198.8.16] ([88.198.8.16:51835] helo=bigtime.backendmedia.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 62/20-54589-6559D784 for ; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 02:29:43 -0400 Received: from localhost (unknown [127.0.0.1]) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 60F524144007; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 06:30:07 +0000 (UTC) X-Virus-Scanned: amavisd-new at backendmedia.com Received: from bigtime.backendmedia.com ([127.0.0.1]) by localhost (bigtime.backendmedia.com [127.0.0.1]) (amavisd-new, port 10024) with ESMTP id dzF-kzaUif7V; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:30:06 +0200 (CEST) Received: from [192.168.80.139] (unknown [195.226.16.50]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) (Authenticated sender: mls@pooteeweet.org) by bigtime.backendmedia.com (Postfix) with ESMTP id 4ED844144006; Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:30:05 +0200 (CEST) Cc: PHP Developers Mailing List , =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Johannes_Schl=FCter?= , Wez Furlong Message-ID: <4E4C89B3-E5C4-4542-A95C-1A77061DDDBF@pooteeweet.org> To: Christopher Jones In-Reply-To: <487D29B1.6090802@oracle.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed; delsp=yes Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mime-Version: 1.0 (Apple Message framework v928.1) Date: Wed, 16 Jul 2008 08:28:04 +0200 References: <487D120D.9060502@oracle.com> <487D29B1.6090802@oracle.com> X-Mailer: Apple Mail (2.928.1) Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] tentative 5.3 release plan From: mls@pooteeweet.org (Lukas Kahwe Smith) On 16.07.2008, at 00:50, Christopher Jones wrote: > > We could still support older Oracle versions with an optional > > download. If we want to be super fancy, we might even include a note > > in an error message when trying to connect to older versions that > > there is pdo_oci8 available as an optional download from win.php.net > > (or whatever our pecl4win.php.net replacement will be). > > I'd prefer to keep the status quo instead of making the build more > complex. The idea was to simplify the distribution and move forward. > > The DB versions in question are Oracle 7 - released in 1993, and > Oracle 8.0 - released in 1997, IIRC. These versions are even more > uncommon than when PDO_OCI was created in back 2004. Well for Oracle 7 I can definitely see it, but Oracle 8 will still be in production in plenty of places. I am fine with not supporting them out of the box, but I think we should try to offer them a download from PECL by the time 5.3.0 ships. That being said the world will not end for me if we do not provide this, especially since I assume very few people will have Oracle 8 and running a PDO based app on windows. Most people will probably be using ext/oci8 for this kind of setup. regards, Lukas Kahwe Smith mls@pooteeweet.org