Newsgroups: php.internals Path: news.php.net Xref: news.php.net php.internals:38825 Return-Path: Mailing-List: contact internals-help@lists.php.net; run by ezmlm Delivered-To: mailing list internals@lists.php.net Received: (qmail 39086 invoked from network); 7 Jul 2008 16:05:12 -0000 Received: from unknown (HELO lists.php.net) (127.0.0.1) by localhost with SMTP; 7 Jul 2008 16:05:12 -0000 Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com smtp.mail=pencap@gmail.com; spf=pass; sender-id=pass Authentication-Results: pb1.pair.com header.from=pencap@gmail.com; sender-id=pass; domainkeys=bad Received-SPF: pass (pb1.pair.com: domain gmail.com designates 66.249.82.236 as permitted sender) DomainKey-Status: bad X-DomainKeys: Ecelerity dk_validate implementing draft-delany-domainkeys-base-01 X-PHP-List-Original-Sender: pencap@gmail.com X-Host-Fingerprint: 66.249.82.236 wx-out-0506.google.com Received: from [66.249.82.236] ([66.249.82.236:46437] helo=wx-out-0506.google.com) by pb1.pair.com (ecelerity 2.1.1.9-wez r(12769M)) with ESMTP id 0F/49-22046-7BE32784 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 12:05:12 -0400 Received: by wx-out-0506.google.com with SMTP id s12so778081wxc.26 for ; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:05:09 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:received:received:message-id:date:from:to :subject:in-reply-to:mime-version:content-type:references; bh=eWxZ6tIJvoopo9V4tS/X5AK4snN5t0Oz854ovjVtcpw=; b=KPnmqCAslU5GubijG2dAGyV2PkHTZedYO4Uo0vK7EL/hmMoHXThEqoxcvkxWWVwLS2 iMX6ydK7ZfghO0dl8TJImh6jBHtOtT9x8B1g6IXJ4+QI6V5uNPZknIndpT02i4C1VcX2 3P4w+Wss2wSNkQgyU09ipyHTgJOjHsNuo0gck= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=message-id:date:from:to:subject:in-reply-to:mime-version :content-type:references; b=fCunH7n+JZPSzlTyXTf41X3M5PdoUL9BkTvusjwuHubmQEy967ViHzA9YNy6EmmIss uhURXr9WxHDhXAQZ3HukM9Ck/yrohnrLbejBgxsxQvndaNWs1J8fiVKyNH5oiwS+31qj 1w2R2IyQ+XIKDMW1DEhJ5xN50qP8Z57ZfHQ4o= Received: by 10.143.14.16 with SMTP id r16mr1366644wfi.122.1215446708770; Mon, 07 Jul 2008 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Received: by 10.142.103.21 with HTTP; Mon, 7 Jul 2008 09:05:08 -0700 (PDT) Message-ID: <34eeaeca0807070905l10d8698ei9cf4ff5771f1cf67@mail.gmail.com> Date: Mon, 7 Jul 2008 11:05:08 -0500 To: "PHP Internals" In-Reply-To: <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE01C3AB6B@us-ex1.zend.net> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_10925_23098374.1215446708768" References: <7f3ed2c30807070051q706kccf11d9cfbac5efc@mail.gmail.com> <4871D192.6050902@sci.fi> <353f2c6f0807070415o7a9e083eo8eceaf6f054b8036@mail.gmail.com> <1109578988.20080707150201@marcus-boerger.de> <698DE66518E7CA45812BD18E807866CE01C3AB6B@us-ex1.zend.net> Subject: Re: [PHP-DEV] PHP 4.4.9 From: pencap@gmail.com ("Mike Willbanks") ------=_Part_10925_23098374.1215446708768 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline Hello, On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 9:29 AM, Andi Gutmans wrote: > > On Mon, 7 Jul 2008, Marcus Boerger wrote: > > > > > Janusz is damn right here. Make the patches available but do not > > > make it easy for people to stick to 4 please. Instead, stick to th > > > eplan. > > > > We do, there are security fixes - we make a release. > > I'm with Derick here. We should push out new releases when there are > security issues While I mostly observe here, I would like to add some feedback from this point of view. With PHP 4, the date still has not been reached and if there are security flaws they should be patched and released. This should not be sending mixed messages with the end of life announcement. From the enterprise perspective, we are out of compliance once the end of life has been exceeded and internal policies will force many on PHP 4 to upgrade to PHP 5 once that date has been reached. Within these environments there might be legacy applications running on PHP 4 that are either waiting to reach their end of cycle or need to be upgraded and the only way that does happen is when those timelines are reached when the language reaches the end of it's life cycle. Mike ------=_Part_10925_23098374.1215446708768--